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I think you're joking? Is it because the guI is not designed this year that you have an imaginary feelIng against it?
Seems many guys listen with eyes and not the ears.:)
For me it's more important how a plugin "sounds".
Waves Plugins does also not win a beauty contest.

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So what exactly does this offer over any of the other 1000 EQ's? I'm going to guess it is nothing. Just like most of these damn modeled EQ effects. People will go nuts if the GUI looks like an older style hardware EQ. It really is that stupid. It's a EQ, there are plenty of them out there. There definitely is no shortage of options and a lot of them are free or don't cost too much. I would think developers would start to take a look at their pricing with the current economy state and not just that, the competition.

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monkeymanx wrote:So what exactly does this offer over any of the other 1000 EQ's?
First of all, sound quality. Seen from a technical point of view, the frequency response of the bell curve does not go towards 0 when approaching the Nyquist frequency (half the sample rate), this without the use of oversampling. Note: This is only true for the "Vintage" algorithm, you can in fact switch between Clean and Vintage and see for yourself on the curve.
(Sorry to go all technical on you, but you did use the word 'exactly' : - ) ).
Anyway, that's of course just 1 reason why we feel it sounds better than the competition.

Try this to test the sound: Boost at around 8K (with a wide bell curve, say 0.5 Q) on any other EQ, and then on this. I'm sure you will be able to tell the difference.
In fact, with a lot of EQs you won't be able to boost anywhere in the high freq area without it sounding harsh.

And then there's the GUI layout. As it always are with these things, some people will like it this way, some people another way. I suggest you download the demo and judge for yourself.
All I can say is that a lot of people find this particular layout appealing. You may, or may not, be one of them.

Finally, there's the speed. A lot of EQ's are fast enough to easily run 128 of them, this is one of them.

But again, in the end it all comes down to what works for you. If you feel comfortable using another cheaper (or free) plug-in, for sure, go for it! Personal taste is what makes life interesting : - )


Greets,

Michael Olsen
Sonic Timeworks

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Got it, though I don't really understand the technical details part of it. I do find though boosting highs or doing a shelf in the MixControl EQ sounds good. Even using a Q of 1 or so it still sounds fine. The FabFilter one sounded fine too but it is pricey as well. I guess GUI is all opinion because everybody works their own way. I think one thing that destroys plugs for me is when there is no keyboard input functionality. I like being able to just type in the frequency and q value.

So essentially this EQ give you a high pass, low pass, hi shelf, low shelf, and then 4 peak filters? The filters can't be changed? Also no plans of an Linear Phase mode for a master bus? Just curious.

Also, I guess there is no perfect EQ or plug in and that is why we have so many of them.

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monkeymanx wrote:I think one thing that destroys plugs for me is when there is no keyboard input functionality. I like being able to just type in the frequency and q value.
As do I.

I'm not sure if you're talking about the EQ V1 here; it certainly has keyboard functionality.
On the first (non-graphical) page you can click the text to edit it. On the second (graphical) page you have to double-click, since it otherwise interferes with the click-and-drag function.

However, some 32-bit OSX hosts may have problems with the keyboard functionality. This is, I believe, a common problem which many plug-ins have.
monkeymanx wrote:So essentially this EQ give you a high pass, low pass, hi shelf, low shelf, and then 4 peak filters?
Almost, except that the shelves are switchable to peak (just click the shelf image on the non-graphical page).
monkeymanx wrote:Also no plans of an Linear Phase mode for a master bus? Just curious.
We used to have that, the EQ V1-LP. It's in consideration for a revive also, but honestly, it is not far up on the list currently.



Greets,

Michael Olsen
Sonic Timeworks

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monkeymanx wrote:Got it, though I don't really understand the technical details part of it.
Try to switch to "Clean" mode and boost (or cut) at 10KHz with a Q value of 0.5. Look at how uneven the curve looks. This is how most digital EQ's are.
Now switch to "Vintage" mode, and look at the curve again.

That is what I tried to explain.

Also, please note that when comparing to other products, they may not show the actual frequency response on their curve, but more like an idealised version of it. To make a real comparison with another product, you would need to analyze a test signal send through both plug-ins.


Best,

Michael Olsen
Sonic Timeworks

EDIT: In the experiment mentioned above, a sample rate of 44.1KHz is assumed(!)
Last edited by Michael_Olsen on Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Hi Michael,

Is this similar to the Koblo/Keytosound EQs? Also what is the Copy Protection?

Cheers,
Nigel
I miss MindPrint. My TRIO needs a big brother.

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Got it, I didn't know if the shelves were switchable. I may give the demo a run. Honestly if you added an linear phase mode it would probably raise a lot of eyebrows(I think that is the term). That is one thing I liked about the FabFilter eq, you could switch it to linear phase mode. It is nice having it all packed into one product and that would make an eq a true go to eq.

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Hi Nigel,
nigel_khan wrote:Hi Michael,

Is this similar to the Koblo/Keytosound EQs?
The algorithms are related.
nigel_khan wrote:Also what is the Copy Protection?
As ttoz says, it is a non-machine dependent license file.

It has always been our choice at Timeworks to try to make the copy protection easy and not machine dependent (personally I loathe challenge/response).


Greets,

Michael Olsen
Sonic Timeworks

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Thanks Michael (and ttoz), great news on all counts, now to save my pennies.

Cheers,
Nigel
I miss MindPrint. My TRIO needs a big brother.

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Any word on the Phaser for vst?

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metalifuxx wrote:Any word on the Phaser for vst?
There's a poll on our forum (Sonic Timeworks section of this site). Vote for the phaser there, and you have a greater chance of us redoing that.


Greets,

Michael Olsen
Sonic Timeworks

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NAS wrote:
ttoz wrote:
NAS wrote:
xoxos wrote:looking forward to when i can release a $99 piece of software that can be labeled "no brainer" :p
Hahahahaah yeah

NAS
it's better than buying 5 crap $20 no brainers. :wink:
What a completely strange statement
Its like saying "White is whiter than black" :wink:
>snip<
but it is! ahhh.... sh.. i'm drunk... :lol:
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man

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