KVR Audio

setAI · Post by **setAI** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:32 pm

great sound! huge amount of sounds

but it grinds my CPU into powder

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:52 pm

DrGonzo wrote:In all honesty, I'm not that impressed by it either - and the idea that you have to insert a high-quality limiter after it to make it shine - sounds like fanboy talk to me. Heck, I can get anything sound good with some quality outboard.

To be fair, I haven't been digging deep into it and I will. I will read the manual and start mangling it on my own and see what kind of stuff comes out. I am sure I'll be impressed in a way or two.

But I can't understand why there's no bloody riot going on here. I mean... herro?? This is KvR!

Some personal moaning here, but hell yeah. It makes me irritated, and I do feel I have the right to be. I have paid twice for the old PPG now - in the form of the plugin package. Once to Steinberg and once again to Waldorf just two months ago, and now they're telling me that I cannot upgrade to version 3 because it's considered a whole new product? Even Steinberg understood that you couldn't charge the whole userbase the full price when they released Cubase SX - which basically was a rewrite.

Grumpy.

Hold your hosses, there will be an upgrade path. Scroll down to Ingonators post.

One of the devs confirmed as well but i didn't go through all the pages to find it. So you turn that frown upside down!

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:58 pm

musikmachine wrote: Hold your hosses, there will be an upgrade path. Scroll down to Ingonators post.

One of the devs confirmed as well but i didn't go through all the pages to find it. So you turn that frown upside down!

You're speaking my greedy language now, and I like it

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:37 pm

musikmachine wrote:
DrGonzo wrote:In all honesty, I'm not that impressed by it either - and the idea that you have to insert a high-quality limiter after it to make it shine - sounds like fanboy talk to me. Heck, I can get anything sound good with some quality outboard.

To be fair, I haven't been digging deep into it and I will. I will read the manual and start mangling it on my own and see what kind of stuff comes out. I am sure I'll be impressed in a way or two.

But I can't understand why there's no bloody riot going on here. I mean... herro?? This is KvR!

Some personal moaning here, but hell yeah. It makes me irritated, and I do feel I have the right to be. I have paid twice for the old PPG now - in the form of the plugin package. Once to Steinberg and once again to Waldorf just two months ago, and now they're telling me that I cannot upgrade to version 3 because it's considered a whole new product? Even Steinberg understood that you couldn't charge the whole userbase the full price when they released Cubase SX - which basically was a rewrite.

Grumpy.
Hold your hosses, there will be an upgrade path. Scroll down to Ingonators post.

One of the devs confirmed as well but i didn't go through all the pages to find it. So you turn that frown upside down!

This is from the "Boss" himself:

Wolfram Franke wrote:
VSTJuNkiE wrote:Well, I got an email and it's official....

Waldorf says that the PPG WAve 3.V is considered a "seperate product" from Waldorf Edition. So "no go" on a upgrade path...
Official:

This is not true. There will be a discount for existing Waldorf Edition customers. Watch our shop on http://www.waldorfmusic-shop.de beginning of December.

And try out the 100 hour evaluation.

Best wishes,

Wolfram

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:35 pm

DrGonzo wrote:
musikmachine wrote: Hold your hosses, there will be an upgrade path. Scroll down to Ingonators post.

One of the devs confirmed as well but i didn't go through all the pages to find it. So you turn that frown upside down!
You're speaking my greedy language now, and I like it

sonicfire · Post by **sonicfire** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:21 pm

well....100 hours or 100 days?? thats quite a difference

Shy · Post by **Shy** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:34 pm

sonicfire wrote:well....100 hours or 100 days?? thats quite a difference

100 hours within a period of 100 days.

frankvg · Post by **frankvg** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:44 pm

It is a drag to program a multisample patch. Does anyone have some quick tips?

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:23 pm

frankvg wrote:It is a drag to program a multisample patch. Does anyone have some quick tips?

For a multisample you have to use the multimode with key zones etc. and set the Midi channel to the same values. You could save the current multi setup with a fxb file.

frankvg · Post by **frankvg** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:32 pm

no quick tips then....

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:37 pm

frankvg wrote:no quick tips then....

There is no other tip except using the multimode, sorry...
You could use 8 copies of the same patch and just change the sample. Then you map the keyzones etc. with the settings in the multimode. If you are finished you save the 8 patches and the multi setup as an fxb file. This is the only way to save a multi setup and/or a mulisample. There should be at least one or more examples in the factory sounds for this.

Chuck E. Jesus · Post by **Chuck E. Jesus** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:59 pm

i'm confused: you can load waves, but there is no wavetable editor? i had a Microwave II but could not get a editor to work with it, and i own Kubik...what exactly can one do and not do with the PPG as far as user waves? i'd try myself but it's taking a very long time to d/l the vst so i'm curious if i should cancel...

thanks...

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:24 pm

Chuck E. Jesus wrote:i'm confused: you can load waves, but there is no wavetable editor? i had a Microwave II but could not get a editor to work with it, and i own Kubik...what exactly can one do and not do with the PPG as far as user waves? i'd try myself but it's taking a very long time to d/l the vst so i'm curious if i should cancel...

thanks...

Aaaaaaah, please not the editor thing again. There was almost a whole thread about this and NO, at V1.0 there is no wavetable editor.

BTW did anyone notice that there are 120 wavetables now?? Try those first, load a sample from the Waveterm library or use your own samples...

dhalfen · Post by **dhalfen** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:31 pm

Ingonator wrote:Aaaaaaah, please not the editor thing again. There was almost a whole thread about this and NO, at V1.0 there is no wavetable editor.

BTW did anyone notice that there are 120 wavetables now?? Try those first, load a sample from the Waveterm library or use your own samples...

I can understand the confusion, though!

Right now, what's "built-in" is what you have, so no wavetable-editing (which is a pretty hefty task for "doing it right" anyway

). As Ingo says, the VAST selection already available is pretty freakin' cool. (IMHumO, of course, so I can easily overlook the missing "DIY Wavetabler."

)

And then, of course, add your own samples (er, "transients") and run 'em through the PPG Wave "system" for added fun!!!

PietW. · Post by **PietW.** » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:35 pm

Ingonator wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:i'm confused: you can load waves, but there is no wavetable editor? i had a Microwave II but could not get a editor to work with it, and i own Kubik...what exactly can one do and not do with the PPG as far as user waves? i'd try myself but it's taking a very long time to d/l the vst so i'm curious if i should cancel...

thanks...
Aaaaaaah, please not the editor thing again. There was almost a whole thread about this and NO, at V1.0 there is no wavetable editor.

BTW did anyone notice that there are 120 wavetables now?? Try those first, load a sample from the Waveterm library or use your own samples...

Why not. Maybe Waldorf noted what the users want

Waldorf PPG Wave 3.V Released- Demo Available (eLicenser)