Your next guitar?

[hibidy]

http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/RG2550E



699!

Oh my!!!

Did you try it out yet?

No, I'd have to order it.

[Uncle E]

I need a guitar that sits comfortable without having to save one hand for the guitar.

That's an interesting way to look at it. Please explain how Gibson's don't provide this to you, I'm curious from a wannabe designer's point of view.

[Uncle E]

I've seen stunning incompatibility between necks and bodies, in fact my favourite orange Tele (pictured a few pages up) started life with a completely different neck, what a difference !

Yup, good point. I have a Chandler replacement neck that's magic on the two cheesy knock-off bodies I've put it on. When I replaced it on both guitars with Fender and USA Custom Guitars necks, both of which were more expensive and generally considered higher-end, they both lost something special.

btw, that dead tele is a Warmoth neck and Warmoth body. :-/

[robogone]

I need a guitar that sits comfortable without having to save one hand for the guitar.

That's an interesting way to look at it. Please explain how Gibson's don't provide this to you, I'm curious from a wannabe designer's point of view.

I agree with Hink that Gibsons are hard to sit down and play. I personally like Les Pauls, but I know I've always found them one of the hardest guitars to sit and play because of the balance. But other than the weight they're as easy to play standing as any other guitar IMO.

[Hink]

I need a guitar that sits comfortable without having to save one hand for the guitar.

That's an interesting way to look at it. Please explain how Gibson's don't provide this to you, I'm curious from a wannabe designer's point of view.

this will be fun to answer, though robojam is right about the weight and that was my main point the Les Paul isn't alone. In fact my beloved Daion has sitting issues as well, but it's where the curves leave it not not how well it stays in place. As far as being a good guitar in my lap for multi-tasking the Daion is very thin, very light and does not get in my way when switching to a mouse or keyboard (both qwerty and instrument). However (viewed from my perspective as the player with the guitar resting on my right knee and my right foot on a 10" high step) the Daion actually sit's about 4-6" to my right more than my strat*.

This means that my with my strat my center position (lack of a better term) for my left hand is the 12th fret, but with the Daion that same position finds my hand at the 8th fret (I just got up to test this to be precise) and for comparison my Jackson Kelly it's between the 10th and the 11th fret and the Tele Baritone goes the other way and is about the 14th fret (but the first two frets are enough of a reach I feel like I'm 14 again).

To play the upper register on my strat is very comfortable and natural, on the Daion it's a little awkward and my hand is more in front of my ever increasing belly. The higher I go the less accessible is the higher frets on my lower strings are which of course makes a run across the fretboard less comfortable.

To defeat this I go to my old ways, I use to always sit with the guitar hanging, but tbh then I didn't have my gut in the way so this is a compromise. I have always found Les Pauls and SGs to sit like this, I always liked Mockingbirds but they sit worse. I might spend up to 4 hours in this position reaching over my guitar to work on the computer and tbh I do more of that style playing than standing these days.

Check back with me next summer when more of this gut is gone I'll tell you if it's changed

*my ESP strat sits just about exactly the same

[Hink]

btw, that dead tele is a Warmoth neck and Warmoth body. :-/

don't laugh...try thicker screws holding the neck on

[robogone]

I had never thought about differences in hand position for different guitars, I think I just compensate without thinking. Might be because I've alternated guitar and bass over many years and have always played a bass with a full scale neck.

I play a telecaster now and it's probably the lightest electric I've ever owned. I would still get a Les Paul, but when I did own one I alternated between that and a Strat and I guess I just got used to moving from one to the other.

Seems like everyone has different criteria for what constitutes a good guitar, so what works for one might be a deal breaker for another.

[rectus_dominus]

If everything goes well, I'll have my $120 Cort G110 budget fatstrat copy in this week. Looking forward to learn BWV846 on guitar too!

[Hink]

I had never thought about differences in hand position for different guitars,

I didn't either when I was thin Also keep in mind I'm talking about while sitting and not standing. Sitting, the guitar is more in a fixed position, standing it's hanging and more subject to force from my right hand.

[hibidy]

@balance. Though the PRS SE(which is getting a new home) and strat are very well balanced, that's one of the things about the ibby's that I like so much. On top of the thin necks they seem to fit nicely into my lap.

[robogone]

I had never thought about differences in hand position for different guitars,

I didn't either when I was thin Also keep in mind I'm talking about while sitting and not standing. Sitting, the guitar is more in a fixed position, standing it's hanging and more subject to force from my right hand.

I think I've always tended to sit very upright while I play, so haven't noticed that really. I guess the only real thing while standing is that a lot of the weight is on your neck. For a similar reason I haven't played the sax for 2 weeks as I've had a sore neck and back from pulling a muscle.

BTW, I borrowed part of your post for a new humorous thread...

[Uncle E]

don't laugh...try thicker screws holding the neck on

Very good suggestion! Thanks! I bought this guitar used, non-pro assembled, so I can very much see this as a possible culprit.

[Dean Aka Nekro]

http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/RG2550E



699!

Oh my!!!

Did you try it out yet?

No, I'd have to order it.

Reasons not to:

Not needed and ugly coloured scratch plate.
The HSH configuration, the S just gets in the way and even more so on crapped HSH layout
The S will have huge volume differences between the buckers

If you can find one with either a HSS or HH config then cool/go for it pending that it has either no scatch plate or the plate is the same colour as the body (maybe even like chrome or something a little bit different)

Not that colour and pickup layout mate, $700 you can have much better IMHO
course YMMV but i am trying to lay off the GAS pedal (which i have done and not bought anything since i said i wouldn't) and i want to help a fellow addict out

[hibidy]

Those are good points!

Though I don't think the pickguard looks bad, I kinda like it.

I'll probably pass vs gas but when I saw it I thought it was kinda cool. If y'all haven't noticed I love talking about this shit

@ "need": What is this "need" thing and why would I allow it to influence me

I love ibby's (of course, it has to be a prestige (snooty snout) )

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Those are good points!

Though I don't think the pickguard looks bad, I kinda like it.

I'll probably pass vs gas but when I saw it I thought it was kinda cool. If y'all haven't noticed I love talking about this shit

@ "need": What is this "need" thing and why would I allow it to influence me

I love ibby's (of course, it has to be a prestige (snooty snout) )

More cat pics with snob like looks and japam related ibby guitars coming soon

@ "need" what is this "need" thing?

ROFPMSL and then some dude