Well, then it's settled! Amp sims simply need to add knobs for "air" and "punch" so we can dial in the REAL thingtrmupstage wrote:...still, it has no air or punch.
The real amp simply sits right in a mix without any fiddling with EQ. It has clarity, air, punch that no sim ever give me.
are you saying it blows?hibidy wrote:GR4 has "air"
I'm not. I totally agree. I never liked it much either. I'd say I like it less than even most freeware amp sims.trmupstage wrote:Next, Vintage Amp Room beats out Revalver for standard Marshall, Vox and Twin sounds. I was kind of surprised by how little I liked Revalver.
That's exactly what Amplitube is trying to be. You could probably get around this by bypassing the cab/mic section and using an impulse instead, but since you already like VAR why bother? I've always thought that VAR and MAR were on par with Amplitube. Maybe a bit better in some respects, but at the price you'd think they'd include some stomps and post cab effects. Maybe I'm lazy, but most of the time I really don't want to bother with launching and tweaking more than one plug in to get a guitar sound. That's just me though. I could see using some dedicated stomp vsts and post cab effects with the Softube if I was really polishing a track for commercial release, but for me it's playing for my cat and posting an mp3 every now and then.trmupstage wrote: Amplitube just didn't do it for me. It doesn't sound like I'm in front of an amp in a room. Yes, I turned off all the effects, but still, it was not much different than playing my POD XT. I'm not saying it sounds like a POD. All I'm saying is that, like most sims, it sounds like a recording of an amp, not like your in front of one.
what confuses me is that you say you don't want to bother launching and tweaking more than one pluggin, but you swear by AT3 which is indeed a pluggin that has a whole lot of smaller pluggins inside of it. AT3 and GR4 are both very bloated (not a bad thing) and takes a lot of think unless you just use presets. That is precisely what this thread is about, it was a tongue and cheek point about being tired of having to go through so many steps and choices to get one's sounds and that describes AT3 to a 'T'..no?zerocrossing wrote: Maybe I'm lazy, but most of the time I really don't want to bother with launching and tweaking more than one plug in to get a guitar sound. That's just me though.
Now I would be worried about how much noise 3 or 4 mics would introduce...but that's just me still getting use to not living 15 feet from the busiest street in the area. Still, two mics maybe but 3 or 4 is too much for me..OTOH I don't mind having a set up that records at the minimum 5 sources at once for one guitar part and ultimately could lead to countless tracks with re-ampingNEKRO.MACHINE wrote:Well i still always go for the real deal as mentioned EQ wise if i have 3 or 4 mics on a speaker cab then by adjusting the level once i have each mic in the (totally subjective and whatnot bigtime) sweet spot then i have all the EQ i need usually via the relative levels of each fader. The 'Control room' thing in GR4 attempts to emulate this but does not nail it for me although it is a step in the right direction for sure
we have the same weber which is cool, I'm surprised how good the line out is. As far as mic'ing my biggest issue is still being anal about disturbing neighbors, though I would love to run the amp loud enough so I could put a condenser a few feet away I feel as if to overcome ambient noise I would have to crank it too much. Now my only neighbor that would hear it says no problem, he never hears anything but there's this voice in my head that tells me to be respectful anyhow...which means if I want to be comfortable playing I can't be worried about neighbors.buscemi wrote:I usually do two mics, maybe one in the back if it is a combo. I put tape on the grill and usually can place them pretty quickly based on that with good results. That's just a combination of getting older and not knowing the equipment because I don't change it that much, and an unfortunate amount of $$ and a fortunate amount of time spent at school obsessing over such things. However, I'm more interested in the direct out that I have going as I get a good clean signal for reamping like you mention, Hink. BIG fan of having that available.
...especially for amp sims, and since I'm a bit partial (naturally, based on my employer - but we're also a bunch of surprisingly gear-headed people too) to a certain one and how it can get me out of a jam or be blended in together, and many times I can just use it for the end product anyway.
). Luckily my place is a detached house but the internal noise is more of an issue than pissing any neighbour off! I also do use some plug-in solutions and it depends on what i need but i can get my phsyical rig and mic's setup quicker than mousing around the way i have my gear layed out/the width of my space sort of dictates that already. If the actual speakers in the cabinet were not deliberately mis-matched then i would probably use just two (3 tops) on it NEKRO.MACHINE wrote:Hink i am talking about a 4x12 with mis-matched speakers inside (deliberately), with an MD421, a Sontronics Sigma, a Sontronics Delta and C414 or similar LDC in cardiod mode and if in a decent room a U whatever is in the mic cupboard by Neumann further back so at my place/home studio it is not that many. Usually an MD421, e609 maybe one of the sontronics Ribbons or AudioTechnica AE2500 (dual-element capsule which is really dope on bass cabs also and really suited for kick drum mainly). I can usually crank up either my Marshall DSL50, Ampeg BR-1e, Blackstar HT-5 or Vox AD100VT Valvetronix heads through a choice of 3 cabs but usually the afforementioned 4x12" at my home space and deal with what little background noise issues there are (like Kids running in and ruining the perfect take...etc.
I have made some Impulses of my setup but still, even then it feels like a second-best, not by as much as it used to though these days i must add
Hope that clears up what i mean and i am not the sort to add unecessary extras like more microphones as i keep things as simple as i can. Just that sometimes written down apprears to be/sounds more complex than it actually is if one were with me in the room it would explain alot better
Cheers
Dean
couldn't resist ), I like the idea of 4 different speakers. TBH my 4x12 which has 4 celestion G35s in it has only one speaker actually connected now and my next purchase will either be a 1x12 or the jet city quiet box when it comes out. I want to get an open backed 2x12 as well and the truth is I dont care much what the speakers are that are in the cabs because I'll have 4 celestions on hand.Submit: News, Plugins, Hosts & Apps | Advertise @ KVR | Developer Account | About KVR / Contact Us | Privacy Statement
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