(It's the first song I could find.
Listen from 2:50 to 3:10... At 3:00 the melody switches by a few (4-5?) notes up. I hear this often in popular music. Does it have a name?
Key Change.ermi wrote: I hear this often in popular music. Does it have a name?
ermi wrote:Would you agree that it's mostly (in pop music) a transposition by a specific amount of notes? (Or to a certain key - in relation to the first one used?)

Actually, I should take it back that this thing of just changing the key and repeating the melody near the end is done by the circle of fifths. I think you are right and it is probably done more often by just going up a step. There may be a number of ways because it is often not done very artfully. Modulations that are actually worked into the structure of the song more tend to be done by the circle of fifths.kelldammit wrote:
the same guy also was also of the opinion that modulating the ending (usually repeating) choruses up a step typically means that the writer has either run out of ideas, or is just plain lazy.
You know, it seems to me that the cliched modulation at the end of a song was a much more common thing back in the 60's, 70's, 80's... but more recent pop songs are structurally much simpler, in a sense. Maybe I'm just imagining, but it seems that way.kelldammit wrote:a guy once told me that if a keychange was obvious, you probably did it wrong.he also strongly suggested i play with them, as they can be used to great effect, as others have pointed out.
the same guy also was also of the opinion that modulating the ending (usually repeating) choruses up a step typically means that the writer has either run out of ideas, or is just plain lazy. in pop music specifically, this has become so prevalent that many seem to consider it a vital part of standard pop song structure..."how it's done", rather than "uninspired, cliched copout".
try to be more creative than that
k
OK I'll transpose a half step and sing in a key a flat fifth above the minor third of the newly transposed key. And it will be brilliantkelldammit wrote:a guy once told me that if a keychange was obvious, you probably did it wrong... ...in pop music specifically, this has become so prevalent that many seem to consider it a vital part of standard pop song structure..."how it's done", rather than "uninspired, cliched copout".
try to be more creative than that
k
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