Musician University - thoughts?

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Looking at www.musicianuniversity.com at their songwriting bundle. I've got a real sticking-point with lyrics - if I can ever get them started I can rarely write enough for more than a verse and chorus without repeating myself... MU offer a lyrics course, but you can get an entire songwriting course for not too much more money.

Has anyone subscribed to one of their courses? What did you think?

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audington wrote:Looking at www.musicianuniversity.com at their songwriting bundle. I've got a real sticking-point with lyrics - if I can ever get them started I can rarely write enough for more than a verse and chorus without repeating myself... MU offer a lyrics course, but you can get an entire songwriting course for not too much more money.

Has anyone subscribed to one of their courses? What did you think?

Okay, I'll say this: What famous songwriters attended there, or are on the faculty there?

BTW mega famous song (at the time, and made them plenty of money):

This one goes out to the one I love.
This one goes out to the one I've left behind.
Another prop, to occupy my time.
This one goes out to the one I love.

Fire (She's coming down on her own now).

That's it. Three times through. That's the song. There's one subtle word change but otherwise, pretty repetitive.

You know, Hendrix and Lennon looked to Dylan. Try looking to real teachers - the lyricists themselves. I think anyone charging for those courses is really just trying to make a buck off people. Find artists whose lyrics engage you, and emulate what they do.

Best,
Steve

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You might look at some of the books on poetry or lyric writing. One old (but free) is: http://openlibrary.org/books/OL24203922 ... craft_book.

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llatham wrote:Okay, I'll say this: What famous songwriters attended there, or are on the faculty there?
That's a great question. I tend to be dubious of any learning facility until I have researched them a little. There has been a proliferation of learning facilities over the past 20 years or so, and the rate is increasing with the widespread availability of the Internet.

Just because somewhere offers a course, it doesn't mean that it's good. Quality of teaching is sometimes low on the list of priorities of schools.

My advice would be check the place out in more detail and research them online - see if there are good or bad reviews.

Edit: It took me 2 minutes to find these -

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 326AADYEej
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=202757
http://selfcontainedmonad2.blogspot.com ... scams.html

If it were me I'd avoid them like the plague.

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Thanks very much for your thoughts, guys - I was going to sign up as it's pretty much the cost of a couple of books... but then I thought - why not just buy a couple of books?

No Musician University for me :)

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audington wrote:was going to sign up as it's pretty much the cost of a couple of books... but then I thought - why not just buy a couple of books?
Books don't listen to you and give you feedback.

If you find a teacher that you get along with, and they don't need to be famous at all, then spending some time with them can be much more productive then reading any amount of books or watching youtube videos.

Victor.

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