Triplets
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- KVRist
- 100 posts since 21 Mar, 2010
If an eighth-note triplet is the same thing as one quarter note since it has one beat...why not just use the quarter note...what is the use of an eighth-note triplet.
Also, sixteenth-note triplets....how do you count these?
I'm reading a long in a book, but I don't think they explain it good enough.
Thanks for any help...I need to know triplets before i go any farther in this book. I know their important for reading sheet music.
Also, sixteenth-note triplets....how do you count these?
I'm reading a long in a book, but I don't think they explain it good enough.
Thanks for any help...I need to know triplets before i go any farther in this book. I know their important for reading sheet music.
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- KVRian
- 829 posts since 9 Nov, 2008 from Pile of Shite
It isn't.Majestic290 wrote:If an eighth-note triplet is the same thing as one quarter note
1-2-3 / 1-2-3 / 1-2-3 / 1-2-3
HTH
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 14 May, 2008 from Tralfamadore
I am not sure what you mean that an eighth triplet is the same as a quarter note. The eighth triplet is three notes played for every quarter note. So in a 4/4 measure you could have twelve eighth note triplets in a measure.
Here is what it looks like:
http://www.rockdrummingsystem.com/under ... plet-3.jpg
Sixteenth note triplets are just twice as many as eighth note triplets so you would get a total of six notes for every quarter note in 4/4. That would give a total of 24 sixteenth note triplets per measure.
Here is a short video that compares eighth and sixteenth note triplets.
Here is what it looks like:
http://www.rockdrummingsystem.com/under ... plet-3.jpg
Sixteenth note triplets are just twice as many as eighth note triplets so you would get a total of six notes for every quarter note in 4/4. That would give a total of 24 sixteenth note triplets per measure.
Here is a short video that compares eighth and sixteenth note triplets.
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- KVRist
- 126 posts since 26 Aug, 2003 from TRying to get to your place
My favorite ways to count triplets;
quarter note trips= 1a2 3a4 (make sure the ah is closer to the next beat than it is the beginning beat-maybe even think doo-dah-doo if that makes the sense))
eight note trips=1ta ta 2ta ta 3ta ta4ta ta(why tata you ask-its coming)
sixteenth trips= 1ti ta and ti ta 2ti ta and ti ta 3ti ta and ti ta 4ti ta and ti ta
I have seen other devices to count 3s but for my feel and what I need to make sub divisions this is pretty handy. Thanks to Mr. Carmine Appice for the ti ta nugget.
P.s. I tried to get them lined up right but you know its superbowl sunday and I'm just gettting some post count up while I'm logged in. So just practice 1 ta ta 2 ta ta etc real slow at first and while you are counting 8th note trips ramp it up to twice as fast doing the 1 ti ta and ti ta etc. all while keeping your foot tapping on the 1 ,2 , 3 etc (metronome anyone) and the meter together. You can also do 16th trips real easy with an eight note pulse as someone else had mentioned. It works for me and all the people I teach it to really well after some practice.
Btw Fast quarter note trips have very interesting effects. I would try them before you write them off as worthless. YMMV
quarter note trips= 1a2 3a4 (make sure the ah is closer to the next beat than it is the beginning beat-maybe even think doo-dah-doo if that makes the sense))
eight note trips=1ta ta 2ta ta 3ta ta4ta ta(why tata you ask-its coming)
sixteenth trips= 1ti ta and ti ta 2ti ta and ti ta 3ti ta and ti ta 4ti ta and ti ta
I have seen other devices to count 3s but for my feel and what I need to make sub divisions this is pretty handy. Thanks to Mr. Carmine Appice for the ti ta nugget.
P.s. I tried to get them lined up right but you know its superbowl sunday and I'm just gettting some post count up while I'm logged in. So just practice 1 ta ta 2 ta ta etc real slow at first and while you are counting 8th note trips ramp it up to twice as fast doing the 1 ti ta and ti ta etc. all while keeping your foot tapping on the 1 ,2 , 3 etc (metronome anyone) and the meter together. You can also do 16th trips real easy with an eight note pulse as someone else had mentioned. It works for me and all the people I teach it to really well after some practice.
Btw Fast quarter note trips have very interesting effects. I would try them before you write them off as worthless. YMMV
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
An 8th is half of a quarter, triplet 8th is one-third of a quarter note. A 16th is one-fourth of a quarter, triplet 16th is one-sixth of a quarter note.Majestic290 wrote:If an eighth-note triplet is the same thing as one quarter note since it has one beat...why not just use the quarter note...what is the use of an eighth-note triplet.
Also, sixteenth-note triplets....how do you count these?
1 divided by 3 ≠ 1. 1/3; a triplet division of 'one beat'. 'Triplet 8th' is at 3:1 freqency of occurrence vis a vis a quarter note duration. 3 in the time of one.
Tap your foot an even number of times, 2, 4 etc, and evenly space 3 handclaps (count-outs, anything) for each one.
It will be useful to compare how 3 subdivisions of a beat work vs 2 subdivisions of a beat, find out how it feels.
Once you're confident you can pull off 3 even subdivisions per each foot tap (this foot tap is your 'beat'), do 3 for each two foot taps. It might be awkward for a time. It might be more comfortable to pose 2 against 3, in your mind.
try it like this: 1 2 3 4 5 6, the emphasis agreeing with your (2) foot taps.
Now, at the same tempo or basic speed: 1 2 3 4 5 6. In this latter one, you find that your foot taps on 1 and 4. But you're emphasising the three division.
Now substitute hand claps or hits for the vocals.