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rube2112 · Post by **rube2112** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:57 am

Hi, I perform on stage with a band and I use Cantabile performer and many different softsynth programs. I recently realized that I needed to get a backup computer just in case something happens. What I got is a amd quad core 3.0 ghz with windows 7 x64.

This is the problem. I use a m-audio keystation 88es. I have to use cantabile 32 because many of the plugins I use are only available in 32 bit. On the audio side, I have no problems. The gap is bridged with asio4all and it works just fine. The problem is that cantabile 32 won't recognize any 64 bit midi driver. Is there any small program or virtual midi driver that I can use to bridge the gap for the midi in? I would hate to have to go to a 32 bit os because this computer is lightning fast at loading patches. Any help would be appreciated. Robb

TiUser · Post by **TiUser** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:21 pm

Did you try to use jBridge to run your 32 bit plugins in Cantabile 64bit?

rube2112 · Post by **rube2112** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:28 pm

I havn't tried that yet. Is it stable? I don't understand why changing to a 64 bit os has to be so hard. So far, 64 bit os's are worthless to musicians. I hate to add an unstable plugin adapter to the mix. Robb

TiUser · Post by **TiUser** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:52 pm

You still can run 32bit apps on 64bit Windows.

jBridge is not beta software but I would recommend checking out the plugins you need to bridge as plugins differ too. jBridge does not only connect 32bit with 64bit or vice versa, it can also isolate Cantabile, so if a plugin crashes Cantabile does not necessarily do as well. Plugins wrapped in jBridge have their own address space, hence memory can be better used eve all is just 32bit.

Finally I still think music software for live performance on PC's suffers form the VST concept which comes form the studio world and isn't engineered for the needs of live performance. I point to Korg Kronos and what they start to address with PC based HW for live musicians and you will understand that GHz and GB are not the only factors making an instrument.

tombuck · Post by **tombuck** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:46 am

something doesn't sound right rube2112. i run cantabile 32 bit on my windows 7 x64 laptop. my audio device is the m-audio fast track ultra 8r with the x64 drivers. cantabile uses the asio drivers without any problems. i've hardened my rig for live performances with redundancy as well. takes some tweaking but totally achievable.

what audio device are you using? wondering if it has a compatible asio driver.

rube2112 · Post by **rube2112** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:32 am

Hi...the problem isn't audio, it is the midi input. Is your midi input 64 bit? Robb

tombuck · Post by **tombuck** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:54 am

i have a m-audio keystation pro 88 controller and i connect it via usb directly to my laptop through one of the usb ports. windows 7 recognizes that device no problem at all, and there is also a driver from m-audio for the keystation pro 88. cantabile 32 bit sees that controller just like any other device. also, if i wanted to connect via midi, i would connect through my m-audio fast track ultra 8r device - it has a single midi input and i actually use that for my old roland keyboard. either way they are all 64 bit drivers and cantabile 32 bit has no issues.

so, question for you, why connect via midi and not usb? if you use midi connection, what device are you connecting to on your computer?

rube2112 · Post by **rube2112** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:58 am

I was using usb....or trying to........I guess since it works for you that i need to go through and troubleshoot the usb being recognized. Thanks for the input.........this will help me.....Robb

tombuck · Post by **tombuck** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:13 am

ah yes. normally windows 7 "should" recognize the keystation 88es when connected via usb if not, there is a windows 7 x64 driver for the keystation 88es from m-audio here:

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=sup ... ers&f=1088

if that link doesnt work, just go the m-audio website and go to support and find the driver, download, and install.

thats all you should need. once windows sees the device via usb, cantabile 32 bit will be able to use it and you should be good to go.

rube2112 · Post by **rube2112** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:15 am

Thanks!! I was worried that this was a 64 bit incompatibility but it wasn't. Thanks again.....Robb

TiUser · Post by **TiUser** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:03 am

Well - todays midi devices that are not plug&play usually support 64bit midi drivers. The situation was different a couple of years back.

Even for my older emu x-board or my out of production edirol pcr I could download 64 bit midi drivers ages ago.

Probably you should have a look on your HW makers sites.

But it's true that some makers do not care much about their driver support. So when getting something new it's always a good idea to google a bit to see how the the driver support is...

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