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gorgorgathgorgorgor · Post by **gorgorgathgorgorgor** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:13 pm

ancient wrote:I've just added my One Synth entry, War of the Plushies.

Great entry! I may have to do another, 'cause I think I like yours better than mine! (great title by the way)

ancient · Post by **ancient** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:42 am

gorgorgathgorgorgor wrote: Great entry! I may have to do another, 'cause I think I like yours better than mine! (great title by the way)

Thanks much!

It's an odd synth, isn't it? Very tuned to big, fat techno and trance sounds, but tricky to get some bread and butter sounds from. I really missed having a ring modulator when I wanted bell and timpani patches. (Or maybe I just don't quite get the architecture yet). The detune controls are lovely though.

painpotato · Post by **painpotato** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:07 am

hi
i have just uploaded my entry:
"Painpotato - sincerely yours"
i have been using superwave p8 for a while.and i think it has been the most powerful and useful little synth gear of all time.
and that is why i am here.

i'm having a lot of fun doing this.
thank you KVR and superwave p8.

revorg1 · Post by **revorg1** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:03 am

here goes another one.

12 instances p8
mda multiband
Ferric
Ableton Navitve EQ8

3 beers.

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:30 am

Cheers for the submissions and welcome here Painpotato.

What host and FX's did you use?

tattiemannie · Post by **tattiemannie** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:20 pm

OK, I'm back .... and have my track ready

Tattiemannie - defin-8-ly barrawehweemanyeno

Host: FL8

Sounds; 15 x Superwave P8

Fx: 6 x mda Dynamics, 1 x Plate reverb

Automation used on cymbals to adjust envelope shape

.... confused about the title? .... think Glasgow! .... if in doubt, PM major bloodnok ... he's from that part of the world, and I'm sure he wont be too upset about his local accent being taken the piss out of by a sheepshagger

Ok .... now to post the bloody thing

Archon1024 · Post by **Archon1024** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:02 pm

The following is an urgent plea from the Snare Drum Miracle Network.

Hello, my name is Archon1024. You may remember me from the hit TV shows Synth in the City and 3xOSC's Company. I'm here today because I need your help. Everyday in the world, thousands of snare drum sounds are weak and dying. These poor snare sounds, sounds like "P8 Snare #2", are so thin and weak that they can barely be heard in the mix. These sounds have been deprived of the elements they need to grow up loud and strong... body, attack, presence... and sound rather like an elderly gentleman feebly thumping on wax paper.

These are snare drum sounds like many you have heard at home. They are composed of white and pink noise, a quick attack, and some native EQ. But these snare sounds were born from a parent too unskilled to give them the opportunities they deserve.

I know you're thinking that you're just one synth programmer... what could you possibly do to help? But for as little as one tip or pointer, you can make a difference in a snare sound's life. So please... won't you make that post today?

[edit] I'm totally talking about my own snare sounds here. They just aren't sounding right. Anyone have tips?

batgab · Post by **batgab** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:02 pm

That was great, Arch! I can't help ya with your snare sound but I do wish the best for the SDMN!

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:38 pm

We must really do all we can for the weak and dying snares so they can have a future!

My baby snare also started out like a weakling with noise everywhere, but by happy accident after trial and error, putting the second osc to pulse, octave highest and semi tuned to fit the key of the song, and with very fine cutoff adjustment (around 25%, this is the critical part), resonance to ~80% there was a snap! (of course hardly any envelopes) Then just blend the noise and the pulse osc's volumes to taste and add some funk eq like IIEQ and it does sound a bit like a snare.

Cheers for the entry Tattie, good stuff.

Although I'm a bit off my Glaswegian atm so would need a pointer to get the title?

Yeager · Post by **Yeager** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:11 am

@ Archon1024
Use this http://www.kvraudio.com/db/2506
or something like that to boost the volume then Eq -> compressor.
Want my preset ?

(You can barely hear it without the above)

painpotato · Post by **painpotato** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:19 am

V'ger wrote:Cheers for the submissions and welcome here Painpotato.

What host and FX's did you use?

host:
Cubase 4

fx:
Kjaerhus Audio Classic Auto-Filter
Kjaerhus Audio Classic Compressor
Kjaerhus Audio Classic Reverb
Variety Of Sound epicverb

16 instances of p8

gorgorgathgorgorgor · Post by **gorgorgathgorgorgor** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:18 pm

Archon1024 wrote: The following is an urgent plea from the Snare Drum Miracle Network.

From a conceptual direction, we must remember what makes a real acoustic snare. you have only half of the snare there, snares! (white/pink noise) what you are missing is the drum! conveniently superwave gives us two OSCs to play with. let one be the drum and the other be the snares, and you will achieve your kick-arse super-snare (I have a good one coming up on my second entry, assuming I get it done in time...)

Lunatic_Machinist · Post by **Lunatic_Machinist** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:42 pm

Is it just me or does the "key follow" thing not work at all?
no matter what I do, filter's cutoff doesn't follow the pitch, this is a deal breaker. am I the only one? tried this is in fl and reaper, no party in both.

edit: ok, there's a hardly (but still) noticeable change in sound when adjusting kf with bandpass filters. still, not what I want, not what I expected. and I really didn't expect a filter this bad, gosh. works for strings, I suppose, sucks for everything else. you've got no balls, filter!

tattiemannie · Post by **tattiemannie** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:37 am

I sympathise with Archon ... two Oscs are often not enough .... A snare has 3 elements at least ... four to be good.

1. The drum tone.... saw/square .... strong attack,fast decay
2. the snare .. white noise .... strong attack, slightly longer decay
3. the hit ... any, but filtered pink does good if the synth's attack and decay are responsive enough ... which SP8 doesn't do too well ... being designed for a different niche. where poss, very strong attack, band passed between 500hz and 2k
4. ring .. a tone which can be a derivative of 1. ... but if free, slight lag on attack, short delay.

These 4 aspects can be tweaked out of two Oscs where there is controllable FM, an LFO which has an extended top range, or a delay which can be set to a period which creates a resonant tome.

SP8, for all it's glorious fatness, has neither of these facilities.
However, use two instances, and ....

At the end of the day, you have to decide whether the sound you use does the job within the track rather than how the sound, in isolation, emulates a 'real' snare.

I'm happy my own snare 'does the job' with the help of some tight compression .... it sounds like shit on it's own ... but happy to share the preset as always,

PurpleCatfishBettie · Post by **PurpleCatfishBettie** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:26 am

Anonymous Call by mrblitz000

Renoise Host, 3 instances Superwave P8, filter, Ferox

edit: I really like this VSTI, but it does have a 'minor' problem in Renoise: Sometimes (oftentimes), when playing with the controls, it just gets 'stuck' in a certain 'timbre,' and no amount of knob-twiddling will change the sound of the thing. A quick song save, and song re-load, and i can hear it 'where it really is, sound-wise' (if that makes any sense).

In short, it's got a lot of great sounds; but the controls get 'stuck.'

Automation with Renoise LFOs driving an automation device works fine in any event (go figure).

One-Synth-Challenge 25: Superwave P8 - Submissions