Amplitube next models? What will they be?

[metalifuxx]

Has IK sought into modeling pedals that have mods done to them, i.e. the Analogman/Keeley Boss DS-1 mod that doesn't cut the bass and and keeps the tone knob smooth when you turn it up, instead of it getting thin nasal and harsh when it goes past a quarter of the way up.

[SJ_Digriz]

Has IK sought into modeling pedals that have mods done to them, i.e. the Analogman/Keeley Boss DS-1 mod that doesn't cut the bass and and keeps the tone knob smooth when you turn it up, instead of it getting thin nasal and harsh when it goes past a quarter of the way up.

I have a Keeley DS-1 and TS-9. Both would be interesting to model. The DS-1 doesn't respond to my strat all that well, but the TS-9 is freakin awesome with the mod.

[SadPuppyBlues]

I have a Keeley DS-1 and TS-9. Both would be interesting to model. The DS-1 doesn't respond to my strat all that well, but the TS-9 is freakin awesome with the mod.

Keeley really doesn't deserve that kind of free advertisement for simple mods he probably ripped off of the DIY community.

[Brian @ IK Multimedia]

Has IK sought into modeling pedals that have mods done to them, i.e. the Analogman/Keeley Boss DS-1 mod that doesn't cut the bass and and keeps the tone knob smooth when you turn it up, instead of it getting thin nasal and harsh when it goes past a quarter of the way up.

Well first, let me say that I never know all of what the development team has up their sleeves...

But I can be fairly confident when I say that I don't see this in our future any time soon. There's a lot of gear to model, and we're moving more and more into creating official models with co-branding partnerships from some of the top names in the industry. So it's unlikely we're going to be modeling DIY type mods, unless they are authorized and incorporated into the gear, as the SRV mod was on the Fender '64 Vibroverb Custom.

We tend to model the best examples of the most collectible years of the most sought after gear. So mods and other deviations tend to not fit our mission.

[SJ_Digriz]

I have a Keeley DS-1 and TS-9. Both would be interesting to model. The DS-1 doesn't respond to my strat all that well, but the TS-9 is freakin awesome with the mod.

Keeley really doesn't deserve that kind of free advertisement for simple mods he probably ripped off of the DIY community.

I'm a bit surprised by that attitude. Those guys are tremendous to their customers. They have an outstanding array of their own pedals. They just happen to charge to do known pedal mods. Heck, you can send them your own pedal for mods.

I've modded my own pedals before. It is a no brainer in cost/time trade off to have them do a known update to the pedals. The work is first class. They don't try to hide what the upgrade is. They tell you exactly what they have done to the pedals. You could try to do the mods yourself. But, unless you are a serious modder with the right tools, you won't get close to their work.

I also think a few of the mods are their own design though. I could be mistaken on that. But, I don't care. They do good work.

[Spitfire31]

Like the Roman senatr Cato Sr., who used to end all his speeches with the words "Praeterea censeo Carthaginem esse delendam" ("Moreover, I hold that Karthage should be destroyed"), every now and then I'm repeating my request for an AT3 module modelled on Bo Winberg's (of The Spotnicks fame) rig.

Apparently, his distinctive Strat solo sound depends on his homebuilt tube amp and a cab with two 15" JBL D 130 E elements.

Please consider it!

Best,

Joachim

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I have a Keeley DS-1 and TS-9. Both would be interesting to model. The DS-1 doesn't respond to my strat all that well, but the TS-9 is freakin awesome with the mod.

Keeley really doesn't deserve that kind of free advertisement for simple mods he probably ripped off of the DIY community.

I'm a bit surprised by that attitude. Those guys are tremendous to their customers. They have an outstanding array of their own pedals. They just happen to charge to do known pedal mods. Heck, you can send them your own pedal for mods.

I've modded my own pedals before. It is a no brainer in cost/time trade off to have them do a known update to the pedals. The work is first class. They don't try to hide what the upgrade is. They tell you exactly what they have done to the pedals. You could try to do the mods yourself. But, unless you are a serious modder with the right tools, you won't get close to their work.

I also think a few of the mods are their own design though. I could be mistaken on that. But, I don't care. They do good work.

general guitar gadgets includes the parts and schematics for the mods, the keeley mod is what? Two resistors and two caps? It really isn't something that can be done 'better' unless you're comparing it to a job done extremely poorly, imo not worth the price of shipping.

I think the no brainer is to buy the tubescramer kit from them for 60 bux and add the 8 dollars more (all usd) for all the mods including boutique mods. As far as time goes, it's a simple kit to build and even if one is not that experienced one could build this as long as they can solder. The time spent building the kit may return ten fold in knowledge and understanding...plus you can try the other mods because you have all the parts

[SJ_Digriz]

I think the no brainer is to buy the tubescramer kit from them for 60 bux and add the 8 dollars more (all usd) for all the mods including boutique mods. As far as time goes, it's a simple kit to build and even if one is not that experienced one could build this as long as they can solder. The time spent building the kit may return ten fold in knowledge and understanding...plus you can try the other mods because you have all the parts

By the time you add the cost of the pedal to the $60 for the kit, you are damn close to what they charge for the fully moded pedal. I'm not saying that you can't do those mods yourself. I'm saying that they are NOT ripping anyone off.

It is always better to do it yourself from a learning standpoint. However, once I figured out how various distortions worked, I lost interest in the moding itself. I'd rather spend my time on other much more important stuff, like ranting on forums.

Anyhow, I think the idea of modeling some effective mods to classic pedal designs is a good idea. Maybe what people are not hip to is giving Keeley credit for it.

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I think the no brainer is to buy the tubescramer kit from them for 60 bux and add the 8 dollars more (all usd) for all the mods including boutique mods. As far as time goes, it's a simple kit to build and even if one is not that experienced one could build this as long as they can solder. The time spent building the kit may return ten fold in knowledge and understanding...plus you can try the other mods because you have all the parts

By the time you add the cost of the pedal to the $60 for the kit, you are damn close to what they charge for the fully moded pedal. I'm not saying that you can't do those mods yourself. I'm saying that they are NOT ripping anyone off.

It is always better to do it yourself from a learning standpoint. However, once I figured out how various distortions worked, I lost interest in the moding itself. I'd rather spend my time on other much more important stuff, like ranting on forums.

Anyhow, I think the idea of modeling some effective mods to classic pedal designs is a good idea. Maybe what people are not hip to is giving Keeley credit for it.

the cost of the pedal kit itself is 60 dollars, the cost of the mods is 8 dollars more which means the total cost for the kit plus the parts for all the mods is 68 dollars (plus shipping of course). That also includes the cost of the emclosure but it is not painted, however it is pre-drilled.

http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/com ... egory_id=7



Edit: I agree that modeling some more of the modded pedals would be cool and I have no problem with giving keeley credit...I was only pointing out that you can build the kit cheap with the mods and that the keeley mod itself is not worth paying much more for because it's so simple.

[SJ_Digriz]

the cost of the pedal kit itself is 60 dollars...

Sorry about that, we were talking along two different lines.

You were talking complete third pary mod kits.I was working from buying an actual manufacturers pedal and having it modded by Keeley (which is the service they provide).

Kits are an excellent way to learn how effects work. Very informative. However, I've never enjoyed assembly and soldering time. I even did a couple where you have to iron your own pcb. bleh ... never again. I say that, but I get caught up in the "how does it work" thing. Then I have to do it. Very annoying personality quirk.

[hibidy]

Are we there yet?

[metalifuxx]

I wish I had someone who could show me firsthand how to work with electronics and soldering etc. (you know, the important DO's and DONT's). I have never done either and would not no where to start. I don't want to ruin $60 worth of parts and make them useless. Is there an "undo" button when it comes to that stuff? Sure I could read info and watch youtube tutorials, but I myself would learn it better if there was like a coach to get me through a first project. Hell, I get confused when trying to figure out proper safe speaker cab impedance adjustment and if I can use my cab with a friends amp or vice versa.

So you can see the allure of these pricey pedal mods done by people who know what they're doing and know it will be done right. Most guitarists are in the mindset of "I want that tone now and I don't care how" and will usually gladly pay whatever amount to get it, if that is the tone they seek. Or they do the alternative cheap route and buy Behnringer stuff

[Hink]

I wish I had someone who could show me firsthand how to work with electronics and soldering etc. (you know, the important DO's and DONT's). I have never done either and would not no where to start. I don't want to ruin $60 worth of parts and make them useless. Is there an "undo" button when it comes to that stuff? Sure I could read info and watch youtube tutorials, but I myself would learn it better if there was like a coach to get me through a first project. Hell, I get confused when trying to figure out proper safe speaker cab impedance adjustment and if I can use my cab with a friends amp or vice versa.

So you can see the allure of these pricey pedal mods done by people who know what they're doing and know it will be done right. Most guitarists are in the mindset of "I want that tone now and I don't care how" and will usually gladly pay whatever amount to get it, if that is the tone they seek. Or they do the alternative cheap route and buy Behnringer stuff

sure, just head east about 600 miles (as the crow flies), when you hit the ocean pick up some lobsta for us and head just a little bit north and I'll walk you through it. As for 'undo', yes and no it kind of depends on what you do wrong. If you use too much heat soldering in an ic chip there might not be an undo.

I swear by my magnifying visor (pic below and in another thread), it comes with three lenses and is very comfortable with a padded leather headband. Anytime I do projects I have these on my head. Even building my dulcimer I watched while drilling all the holes (like 60-70) through these...I even use them to read things with tiny print

[Hink]

the cost of the pedal kit itself is 60 dollars...

Sorry about that, we were talking along two different lines.

You were talking complete third pary mod kits.I was working from buying an actual manufacturers pedal and having it modded by Keeley (which is the service they provide).

Kits are an excellent way to learn how effects work. Very informative. However, I've never enjoyed assembly and soldering time. I even did a couple where you have to iron your own pcb. bleh ... never again. I say that, but I get caught up in the "how does it work" thing. Then I have to do it. Very annoying personality quirk.

I was under the impression that you could order just the mod but I can't find it so I guess I was wrong...I plan on building the tubescreamer kit sometime in the future, but it's been on my list of projects to do for a while. I also want to build a Marshall 18 watt style head from mojo but I'm a little nervous about working with the high voltage. A childhood friend I see from time to time (he was my best man at my wedding waaaaaay back) is an eletrical engineer and works for irobot. I figure at some time I can enlist his aid

But like you I also am sick of soldering so that delays projects even more, though now that I moved I have a better workspace

[Brian @ IK Multimedia]

Are we there yet?

My sources tell me we are one month away from opening the doors on the AmpliTube Custom Shop. I think I already saw a couple shiny new Fender Princeton Reverbs and Orange AD30 combos being setup in the window...