Slate Virtual Console Plugin is now available

[kmonkey]

Anyway..Slate does decreased CPU you are mentioning in new build means less quality sound or you guys managed to pull same quality with less CPU consumption?

No, I don't think so.

The code will just be optimized with very minimal setbacks. I trust Fabrice Gabriel in that section. I mean, hey... his main firm is Eiosis... and he insists on quality sound.

What about two additional console models? Will they find their way into VCC update or this is planned for VCC2?

In alpha, there were actually seven consoles planned, which turned out to be a bit much work for an initial release. There's still another Brik 9k (around 90ies) planned, a RCA desk (early 60ies IIRC), and a Neo(tech). Or... I think I miss the "tubey" (8 consoles?) one... not sure atm which one that was...

Anyways...
A couple of users (myself included) also recommended more desks to port (in my case, another south-east british 60ies transfer console, yet another mid-west british end-90ies split console, once more a south-east british mid-2000 tube console, a German 60-80ies broadcast console, and one known/hated branch with consoles for "consumer" abuse).

According to mails with Steven from a couple of months ago, the VCC system is easy to upgrade. So I'd stay tuned what the future might bring additionally.

Thanks! I actually tried early beta and to me it wasn't subtle at all and i liked very much what it did to my sound. Even without driving input heavy. I really really liked it. I do electronic music and i liked to sculpt sound of 909 bass drum and 909 clap. It really make them (in the lack of finding better word) to fit and blend in a mix nicely. Just by loading channel inside. I can't remember which console was that i liked..

I see how people can argue about price and ilok demo but in the sound department i am a bit shocked to see on how many thinks that effect is too subtle and not worth it. I just hope that sound isn't changed that much from early beta. By now i already have (empty)iLok-2. I wish Slate offer me some sort of chunk payment for my humble poorness but i doubt it..

Sure 250$ is too much even for me at the moment but...can anyone show me anything similar for less price (yes i have Nebula and 3rd party programs and no it is not same sounding)?? AFAIK there isn't anything. So it's either 250$ or STFU

[sonicpowa]

"Of course I won't buy an amazing plugin if its iLok protected! I prefer to spent hours of tweaking other non protected plugins - even if they don't sound anything like it!"

A few hours tweaking saves $250 + no dongle + it possibly use less CPU power, not a bad deal? After that you have a good plugin chain to use. I don't care if it sounds exactly like SSL or whatever, because it sounds better and it's not subtle. Try it.
btw, if you don't have usable presets after few hours then I suggest to stop because you may not know what is needed and tweaking could take forever.

[MFXxx]

btw, if you don't have usable presets after few hours then I suggest to stop because you may not know what is needed and tweaking could take forever.

+1+ Absolutely

Here in UK works out at £160 including a £40 dongle...do the maths this is a no brainer.

No, it's a lot of money.
And from what I heard from this thing yet, the effect is so small, that it doesn't matter (also it's nothing special).

You indeed are correct sir, the effects are very small, so small. In fact why anyone is even bothering to use it as an insert or effects send is beyond me this plugin has nothing to do with summing or using on groups/master buss...or does it

I would highly recommend anyone who feels they may have the need but not afford this plugin, download and test Nebula Free version. See what effects you can drive and notice the difference using any of the consoles on Acusticas website. I love nebula and VCC compliments many of the Nebula repsonses available, imho.

Both Acustica and SSD are changing the game as far as plugins go, for the better...and as the technologies, understanding, coding and experimentation of what is arounf now will certainly contribute to the change on how many people work ITB and OTB. Besides, my conservatory has no space for a Brit 4k mixing desk....or does it

Anyway, at work my lunch break is almost over...need to do some work.

[Compyfox]

Sorry copyfox, i wasn't speaking of soundtoys. Anyways, i muted you, so i don't need to scroll all the way past your pamphlets. cu

Finally some honest decency!
Though this doesn't save me from your trollish nonsense I'm afraid.




And my name is written wrong as well... here's to the trolling I guess!
Raise your glasses, folks.

[macmurphy]

I feel seriously sorry for you people...

we don't need your sympathy.

we need you to start treating people with a modicum of respect.

it's a two way street.

[dalor]

I feel seriously sorry for you people...

we don't need your sympathy.

Actually you do, because you don't know what you're missing out I leave you to it then.

[Compyfox]

we need you to start treating people with a modicum of respect.

I show the people the respect they deserve - and as I was being called "rude" for my comments in the first place, I call out the same to all others that trew around stones and clubs towards my direction.

You don't like my opinion, mute me. Don't like Slate VCC and/or their release politics, don't buy it. You're not satisfied with the features you got, complain to the developers directly. They have a dedicated board at their own page.

You don't like the copy protection scheme, then you're basically screwed since the developers won't change that in the near future.

This is not me speaking for others, and my word doesn't count for gold either (I am not part of Slate LCC!). This is me commenting on facts - if Slate doesn't want to comment further, it's their right to do so.

It's always downhill at boards if there are certain keywords come up. And they are "iLok" or "USB copy protecion", "lack of 64bit", "no Mac version", "emulation", "Nebula vs" and "Price". The last 8-10 pages were pure derailing while I tried to constantly get back on topic. You don't like that, fine. That's a webboard, that's KVR.

But don't blame me for being rude or not on-topic if it's actually the other way around.



With that said, feel free to discuss the PLUGIN and it's use in itself. Everything else was beaten to death already.
Complaints, hatemail, FRs, anti-C/P-campaign: www.slatedigital.com !



And to contribute further to the ON TOPIC discussion:

How about the new "drift" function?
Who used it? What do you think about it? Might it be just the thing for other plugins that can be chained (example: UAD Studer, SKnote.it's RoundTone, etc)?

How do you use the plugin in itself?
Do you stick to the "rules" (aka signal not peaking over 0VU) or do you abuse and overdrive it on purpose (at least 1-2dB above 0VU on all channels)?

What about the consoles?
Do you mix and match? Or do you rather stick to one branch only?

What about further processing?
Do you use pure digital FX after Slate VCC? Do you rather go for other "desk related" emuations (Brit N with UAD Neve 88RS by chance, Poseidon's "Weapon" with Softube's Trident A-Range EQ, Brit N 4k with SSL Duende Native)? Do you revert from using certain plugins (example: EQ/Comp before, now only EQ)?

What about the Workflow?
Did it impact your personal workflow? If so, what changed? Would you have done it sooner?

General Opinion?
If you tested(!) the plugin, and you don't like it... what would you do better? What do you want to be changed? Why wouldn't you recommend it to others?



These are IMO really interesting topics. So please share your experience - bmanic did so already, why don't you join in on the ride?

[Mercado_Negro]

I show the people the respect they deserve

Not true.

@thread:

I'll add my opinions once I get the iLok since it's cool to share/read others perspectives with this plug-in.

Cheers

[Dr.Gunjah]

It's always downhill at boards if there are certain keywords come up. And they are "iLok" or "USB copy protecion", "lack of 64bit", "no Mac version", "emulation", "Nebula vs" and "Price". The last 8-10 pages were pure derailing while I tried to constantly get back on topic. You don't like that, fine. That's a webboard, that's KVR.

In fact it went downhill when you started bashing people that shared their opinion about a non-ilok2 demo although Slate explicitly asked for it.

Still very interested in VCC and I would love to see a non-Ilok2 demo soon.

Cheers,
Doc

[macmurphy]

Still very interested in VCC and I would love to see a non-Ilok2 demo soon.

Cheers,
Doc

hear hear.

[Lenticular]

And to contribute further to the ON TOPIC discussion:

How about the new "drift" function?
Who used it? What do you think about it? Might it be just the thing for other plugins that can be chained (example: UAD Studer, SKnote.it's RoundTone, etc)?

How do you use the plugin in itself?
Do you stick to the "rules" (aka signal not peaking over 0VU) or do you abuse and overdrive it on purpose (at least 1-2dB above 0VU on all channels)?

What about the consoles?
Do you mix and match? Or do you rather stick to one branch only?

What about further processing?
Do you use pure digital FX after Slate VCC? Do you rather go for other "desk related" emuations (Brit N with UAD Neve 88RS by chance, Poseidon's "Weapon" with Softube's Trident A-Range EQ, Brit N 4k with SSL Duende Native)? Do you revert from using certain plugins (example: EQ/Comp before, now only EQ)?

What about the Workflow?
Did it impact your personal workflow? If so, what changed? Would you have done it sooner?

General Opinion?
If you tested(!) the plugin, and you don't like it... what would you do better? What do you want to be changed? Why wouldn't you recommend it to others?



These are IMO really interesting topics. So please share your experience - bmanic did so already, why don't you join in on the ride?

1- Drift function isn't available yet.

2-stick on the channels & bus & mix, sometimes I'll trim +6 into the Mixbuss, then back the fader buss -6db out.

3-typical instruments, keys-midi:4k, gtrs:Brit-k or tri, drum bass buss 4k , stem mixes to source mix:Neve

4-I put the vcc channel post channel fx, mixbuss last (doesn't really matter with the vcc channel though)

5-Only neg comment is that it crashes Sonar X1 no matter what some proclaim it works fine changing vst folder..

& X64 version NOW Please!

[Waker]

Group is nice. That feature is really brilliant, and I wish that the uad Studer were able to gang stuff in group modes. Drift seems interresting, but alas doesn't work yet.

I just go with the basic one on each channel, and one on the mixbus. I don't put anything on the group channels yet, but then I try to keep everything on the same consol. I also try to match my eq's with a relevant EQ. I use UA plugs alot, so SSL=SSL channel + ssl buscomp on mixbus, Neve=88RS on channels and 31102 or 1073 on groups. 33609 on the mixbus. Trident= trident EQ. Api has been succesfull pared with the Harrison.

I basicly use whatever I did before, and let my ears do the choosing, but I find I use less compression.

My mixes do sound alot better, since I got VCC and the UAD studder, but it might be that the plugs also have helped me make better choices.

X64 bit would be nice. I have no problem with Ilok 2, btw. The only slightly annoying thing is that Ilok'ed plugs takes longer to load.... No biggie.

Edit: I forgot to add, that I still use other saturation plugins, The only one I really don't use that much is Ferox. Decapitator is nice going into VCC, while URS saturation is good after... I love the transformer settings for certain things.

[monkeymanx]

I pulled the trigger and made the purchase. I never really got into nebula but this is easy to use and doesn't destroy my cpu. This is a great tool for us ITB mixers. If I had to describe this plug I would say it makes a good mix great and a great mix outstanding.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Group is nice. That feature is really brilliant, and I wish that the uad Studer were able to gang stuff in group modes.

You can do this in the UAD Studer. It's called Gang Controls or something. When that's on, any changes to a control you move or interact with will be applied to all instances of the plugin.

[Compyfox]

I think Waker is out to the fact, that Slate's VCC can be setup to 8 major groups which the UAD Studer can't do (only one major machine).

This is indeed a powerful feature to have. The only tape machine I know that is able to create 4 different groups is SKnote's Roundtone.