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synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:59 am

No responses to my in-progress song?

http://www.mediafire.com/?w56b87gg27gh0j7

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:22 am

synchronizer wrote:No responses to my in-progress song?

http://www.mediafire.com/?w56b87gg27gh0j7

It's an ogg file.
Change it to mp3, and you might get a response.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:39 am

who doesn't have an audio player these days that can decode ogg? It is a common file format for music..

in any case I think the song is nice.. the percussion is a bit too loud to my ears vs the other elements in the song.. I like the progression. Overall the sounds are pretty good for an ancient 16 bit sample set. I suppose this song would have more context if I had read the book or watched the film adaptation however..

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:47 am

I don't have one that's convenient. Soundcloud or bandcamp for streaming to anywhere even mobile is nice if you want lots of people to listen.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:40 am

oh so we need to make it superrrrr convenient for you, huh, mister? Don't be lazy!

Btw I can't listen to your music on your bandcamp page because I don't have flash.. darn.. should have used soundcloud or something convenient.

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:48 am

bandcamp streams directly to the iphone and ipad and they don't have flash... (although i bet something like 99% of all internet-connected PCs and Macs do).

...but over 500 plays on my latest track, so i'm fairly certain it's not a barrier for many

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:04 am

kcisANDderit wrote:
standalone wrote:If you want to download the samples again after that time has expired, IK may ask you for an additional payment.
why are you saying something you're not even sure about?

wtf

I'm absolutely sure that IK MAY ask you for an additional payment, that is, IK reserve them the right to make you pay more if you want to redownload the samples when the links have expired, but they could also reset the links for free if you have a good reason for doing so.

Have you understood now, Mr. What The F**k?.

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:34 pm

The reason I was asking about my song was because the sounds other than drums were too quiet. The mod wheel doesn't seem to help, and the samples don't seem to be designed for velocity expression-They sound bad set to velocity. Maybe I should try again, but truly I wish I could get Komplete since it has some orchestral samples and a lot more. The song is obviously incomplete, as in, I haven't adjusted the volume of each channel yet. Don't worry the drums will be quieter. I just need to know how to make the other instruments louder.

PlasticSoul · Post by **PlasticSoul** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:21 pm

thanks for the explanation guys! I'll backup my miroslav stuff now!

and synchronizer...
I listened to your track, good work there... sounds selection is great but the strings sounds in the background are so low imo...

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:15 pm

aircargo wrote:bandcamp streams directly to the iphone and ipad and they don't have flash... (although i bet something like 99% of all internet-connected PCs and Macs do).

...but over 500 plays on my latest track, so i'm fairly certain it's not a barrier for many

Apple only has around 9 or 10% of the market when it comes to O/S and only a third of the market on smartphones. So if you are only concerned with iPhone and iPad, you ARE missing a large chunk of the market.

In any case, it isn't like the guy encoded his music in a new file format about which no one knows. Even iTunes can play OGG if you get the quicktime driver. Just like I can download/enable Flash and listen to your songs -- The point is the guy kindly asked for comments and you are telling him to do more work so you can remain lazy.

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:44 pm

Vitamin, you asserted that bandcamp made it as hard to preview a track as the ogg format. That's massively untrue. You also said the problem was that it requires flash. It does on PC and Mac but flash is ubiquitous on PCs and Macs. The only non-flash platform I'm aware of is iOS, which bandcamp also supports.

If you wanted to be helpful, you could have simply pointed out easy ways for others to listen to this non-standard, esoteric file format. Not attack bandcamp, which makes it ridiculously easy to stream full tracks. That just makes you seem like you're writing flame bait. (You are.)

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:49 pm

standalone wrote: I'm absolutely sure that IK MAY ask you for an additional payment...

perfectly ambiguous and totally half-informed. What a joke

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:03 pm

Thank you for listening, but the question is how to make the instruments louder. The HSO instruments apparently rely on the mod wheel, but the virtual one embedded in the vsti doesn't seem to have any effect

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:16 pm

Without listening (because all i can say when i listen is--yes it's quiet, but not why), I can tell you the following.

1. Only some patches use the MOD wheel, the manual explains what the names mean, so you should certainly read the descriptions of the different types of sounds. It comes as a PDF I believe, so it's right there on your hard disk.

2. There are other ways to enter MOD wheel data.

a) Do a MIDI record on the track you want and choose to MERGE the new MIDI data in. Use the MOD wheel on your keyboard controller. Crank it up right at the beginning.

b) Use the MIDI key editor's controller lane at the bottom of the window. Switch the view to MOD wheel and use the pencil tool to write a MOD wheel event to completely on right at the beginning of every track.

You can use both of these methods to tweak the mod wheel value to add expession throughout the track.

Remember that the mod wheel is track-dependent. So you need to do it on every track.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:35 pm

aircargo wrote:Vitamin, you asserted that bandcamp made it as hard to preview a track as the ogg format. That's massively untrue. You also said the problem was that it requires flash. It does on PC and Mac but flash is ubiquitous on PCs and Macs. The only non-flash platform I'm aware of is iOS, which bandcamp also supports.

If you wanted to be helpful, you could have simply pointed out easy ways for others to listen to this non-standard, esoteric file format. Not attack bandcamp, which makes it ridiculously easy to stream full tracks. That just makes you seem like you're writing flame bait. (You are.)

Nope, I asserted that it is a weak excuse to say 'cannot listen to your song it is in format X' as it is a weak excuse for me to say 'cannot listen to your song it is in a format Y.' One format happens to be ogg vorbis, the other through flash. Both formats are rather commonly played these days on all operating systems. Ogg is easily playable on Mac, Linux, and Windows based computers and flash the same.

I was helpful. I listened to his song and commented as they requested. You, on the other hand, were the opposite of helpful and do not see this -- He asked for a simple listen to his song and some comments and you essentially told him you can't be bothered.

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