One-Synth-Challenge 27: Free Alpha - Submissions and gossip

[rob_lee]

I want Morphox i think it's time to enter
Just kidding, goodluck all.

Rob

[bstageboss]

I want Morphox i think it's time to enter
Just kidding, goodluck all.

Rob

Phew, looks like we all dodged a bullet there

and big thanks to Peter for the prize donation. They're a good bunch over there at Linplug...

STV

[gorgorgathgorgorgor]

Ancient, I just got a chance to listen to your entry, and you are my hero. Only trouble is now I have to try and beat it!

[Nielzie]

I want Morphox i think it's time to enter
Just kidding, goodluck all.

Rob

You should definately give MorphoX a try some time Rob. It's good stuff.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

ah, so we are cross-platform ??

my 'built -in chorus' question has been answered, but i have another about the sounds

are we only allowed to use the presets, or can we manipulate them, within the synths (a,d,s,r and filters etc) ??

also, are delays and reverbs ok to use ?? (freebies, like TAL)

am i able to use a trancegate-type thing, if it is free ??

one last thing...are we allowed to chop audio once bounced, in order to gate/stutter ??

[V'ger]

Yes use the synth to the fullest, making your own sounds and DAW automation are strongly encouraged to show it off, but presets alone are of course also fine.

Same with external effects. Even gaters are fine as that is just another way to automate the volume etc in the DAW.

Chopping of bounced audio is not so ok as it's something which the synth couldn't do, so the rule is set that once things are bounced, that's it, no more processing. But you can of course get close to this by DAW automation anyway.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Yes use the synth to the fullest, making your own sounds and DAW automation are strongly encouraged to show it off, but presets alone are of course also fine.

Same with external effects. Even gaters are fine as that is just another way to automate the volume etc in the DAW.

Chopping of bounced audio is not so ok as it's something which the synth couldn't do, so the rule is set that once things are bounced, that's it, no more processing. But you can of course get close to this by DAW automation anyway.

not to be argumentative (just to be very clear), how is using something like stormgate to, rapidly, shut on/off the sound any different to cutting up audio to represent the shutting on/off of the sound ??...meither of these are possible from the synth, alone

i'm happy to accept the rules, just need to clarify

[rob_lee]

I want Morphox i think it's time to enter
Just kidding, goodluck all.

Rob

You should definately give MorphoX a try some time Rob. It's good stuff.

Iv'e heard the demos mate, very nice. Got alot on with Synthmaster for now though so maybe in the near future


Rob

[V'ger]

not to be argumentative (just to be very clear), how is using something like stormgate to, rapidly, shut on/off the sound any different to cutting up audio to represent the shutting on/off of the sound ??...meither of these are possible from the synth, alone

Yea I know the difference between those isn't big, but Stormgate or DAW automation gating can't retrigger sounds and with audio samples you can also jumble up the order of a sound after cutting etc.

Just to background this, I know there are purists here who don't even do much automation if at all to keep it synth only, but it can get static with nothing or only onboard LFO's (which is basically parameter automation). This is no doubt respectable and makes it more of a challenge.

On the other hand there's obviously a long tradition in synth music of using more than LFOs to vary sound from turning knobs by hand when recording, but since we are in modern times and can do this by writing it beforehand in the DAW that's what we do.

But sample manipulation is altogether different. While there are still arguments for and against, the simple fact is that one is no longer using a synth, but a sampler. Whether samples are loaded via a VST or by using the DAW, it's still sampling, that's why the rule is set against it when it's a synth competition. Only exception is to save CPU etc when that is a limitation.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

not to be argumentative (just to be very clear), how is using something like stormgate to, rapidly, shut on/off the sound any different to cutting up audio to represent the shutting on/off of the sound ??...meither of these are possible from the synth, alone

Yea I know the difference between those isn't big, but Stormgate or DAW automation gating can't retrigger sounds and with audio samples you can also jumble up the order of a sound after cutting etc.

Just to background this, I know there are purists here who don't even do much automation if at all to keep it synth only, but it can get static with nothing or only onboard LFO's (which is basically parameter automation). This is no doubt respectable and makes it more of a challenge.

On the other hand there's obviously a long tradition in synth music of using more than LFOs to vary sound from turning knobs by hand when recording, but since we are in modern times and can do this by writing it beforehand in the DAW that's what we do.

But sample manipulation is altogether different. While there are still arguments for and against, the simple fact is that one is no longer using a synth, but a sampler. Whether samples are loaded via a VST or by using the DAW, it's still sampling, that's why the rule is set against it when it's a synth competition. Only exception is to save CPU etc when that is a limitation.

o, gotcha...thanks for laying it out for me

all is good.....i'm glad that i can use track automation as i have no real understanding of how to program synths

should be fun...the perfect antidote to g.a.s (not)

[ancient]

Ancient, I just got a chance to listen to your entry, and you are my hero. Only trouble is now I have to try and beat it!

Wow! Thanks very much (and I look forward to your track beating it!) More good music for all!

Also, huge thanks to Linplug for the new prizes. If Gorgorgathgorgorgor is beating me I'm either going to have to enter a new track or part with some cash for a Linplug personal consolation prize.

[boyd12]

I really want to enter the competition, but I haven't got 20 forum posts yet... I am registrered for a while now. So if i get 20 forumposts before I enter my entry, can I still compete then?

Or do you have to got 20 posts at the start of the competition?

[bstageboss]

I really want to enter the competition, but I haven't got 20 forum posts yet... I am registrered for a while now. So if i get 20 forumposts before I enter my entry, can I still compete then?

Or do you have to got 20 posts at the start of the competition?

I'm assuming that it's OK if you're a contestant.

No voting for yourself. Voters must have had 20 prior forum posts OR participated in that month's contest (emphasis mine)

My guess is that they don't want any contestants to get all their friends to sign up for KVR accounts just to vote for them. I'd have to agree; after all, anyone with 20 posts or a contest entry has at least invested some time and effort into this community.

[V'ger]

Yes that's correct so just load up them Alpha's Boyd12.

Btw, common beginner mistakes are to use host plugs other than EQ (Reaper plugs are though ok as they are available to all), and to name the file and mp3 tag wrongly.

[Happy Frog]

AlphaFREE is the one that comes with the (BT) soundset right, I want to make sure I am working with the right sounds.