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TristezaOrange · Post by **TristezaOrange** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:11 pm

The money! It's burning a hole in my pocket!

Architeuthis · Post by **Architeuthis** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:17 pm

TristezaOrange wrote:The money! It's burning a hole in my pocket!

uhh, no.

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:00 pm

Architeuthis wrote:
TristezaOrange wrote:The money! It's burning a hole in my pocket!
uhh, no.

?

TristezaOrange · Post by **TristezaOrange** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:01 pm

valhallasound wrote:
Architeuthis wrote:
TristezaOrange wrote:The money! It's burning a hole in my pocket!
uhh, no.
?

Yeah, I didn't get that either!

BTW when???!?!?!?

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:15 pm

Lol, burning here too..

Demo sounds absolutely great.. This might well be one of those times where the increased expectations of a wait will be justified..

SuperFly76 · Post by **SuperFly76** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:18 am

I hope so!

I can imagine the place in my pocket where the money should be, burning a hole in my pocket! I'm broke!

Looking forward to the demo. If I like, I'll sell something on the marketplace to fund it. I can never get enough reverb algos.

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:50 pm

My beta testers have let me know that the installer needs some refinement. Right now, the 32-bit and 64-bit VSTs are installed in the same folder, and my beta testers have said that this creates problems with Reaper. F***ing beta testers.

I'm setting the wayback machine to 1985, and learning enough Pascal to create an installer script to allow the user to specify different locations for the 32-bit and 64-bit VSTs. This won't be done today - at least not in time to get the installer posted to the website and be ready for orders.

The VSTs are working great for all beta testers, and work for me on my Win7 and XP machines. I would just put these out as raw DLLs, but the presets need to be installed in a very particular location, so an installer is a necessity for this release.

So...Monday.

oneshotdeal · Post by **oneshotdeal** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:13 pm

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:51 pm

Exciting..

Shame to hear about the fixed preset path though, I really wish everything could be in the same folder. Remembering and/or hunting for paths here and there is so tiresome when loading and backing up.

Would be so nice if every manufacturer could just have things together with the dll. Can you share why there is a need for the fixed paths?

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:06 pm

V'ger wrote:Exciting..

Shame to hear about the fixed preset path though, I really wish everything could be in the same folder. Remembering and/or hunting for paths here and there is so tiresome when loading and backing up.

Would be so nice if every manufacturer could just have things together with the dll. Can you share why there is a need for the fixed paths?

There aren't fixed paths - I'm trying to fix the path issues I am having with my installer. Which means allowing the user to choose the install directory or directories for the plugins. If you want to put both 32-bit and 64-bit VST .dlls in the same directory, you will be able to do so with the new installer. This is the behavior that my installer was defaulting to before, but the beta testers flagged this as causing some problems.

And the presets have to be in a particular place for the plugin to find them. Putting them in the same folder as the .dll would clog up that folder. I forget the actual path for the presets, so having these in an installer is the best solution.

On OSX, Apple has provided both user and system directories for all plugin formats (AU, VST, RTAS). So creating an installer is easier on the Mac - I just install things in the system directory.

Sean Costello

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:24 pm

valhallasound wrote:There aren't fixed paths

So I can put everything in the dll folder if I want to? (or as I prefer; a preset subfolder in the dll folder)

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:46 pm

V'ger wrote:
valhallasound wrote:There aren't fixed paths
So I can put everything in the dll folder if I want to? (or as I prefer; a preset subfolder in the dll folder)

No, the presets go in their own folder, outside of the .dll folder. The plugin looks in a specific system directory for the presets.

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:07 pm

What's the difference between specific and fixed folder?

And why apart from the 'clogging' factor can't we have presets in the dll folder?

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:24 pm

V'ger wrote:And why apart from the 'clogging' factor can't we have presets in the dll folder?

I'm guessing that UAC is the reason. Windows seems to want any user created files to only get written to certain folders.

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:40 pm

V'ger wrote:What's the difference between specific and fixed folder?

And why apart from the 'clogging' factor can't we have presets in the dll folder?

Because the plugin doesn't look for presets there. It looks in a system-specific folder. This is necessary for the cross-platform preset code to work properly.

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