Introducing AmpliTube 3.5 Custom Shop

[Hink]

...has IK not seen all the posts over the internet people make saying "I dont care about models, I care about sound"?...

Good luck to IK, but this is not for me

This is an unfortunate turn because it instantly struck me as a marketing innovation for them, rather than a technological innovation such as the created the original Amplitube. It looks as if they realized that you can only sell a comprehensive amp/device modeler once to each customer. However, this new method of selling lets them encourage continued repeat buys and, ultimately, much greater revenue from each buyer.

I think it's brilliant marketing and good on them for figuring out how to make lots of money. However, I can't base my purchasing decisions on my respect for a company's marketing people--I buy based on cost vs. functionality. If IK phases out entirely the comprehensive package for a core + add-ons structure in the future, I'll look for better alternatives--especially those in which the developers are proudest of their technical advances.

+1, my point is it's all about G.A.S....there comes a point where you do not need all these models, one good model will do the job. Midway between releases of every sim it seems to shift to 'if it sounds good that's all that matters' and people do not care if it's a Marshall model or an Orange model or a Fender model etc. But yet IK is still pushing models and some of those same people will be gushing over the models.

I've been involved in a ton of these threads and I doubt anyone will say that I am either anti or pro sim or anti or pro real amp because I am not biased in any direction. (the only true bias I have is against revalver for they way they treated me personally). The truth is imho that more models wont make you sound better, I really like AT3, I really like GR4, I kinda like GTR3.5 and then there's VANDAL (I do not put that in the same category, it's a virtual amp) and I own them all. There are great freebies as well, some of which are giving the big guys a run for the money sound wise.

Here you have my pet peeve and I'm sorry I do not recognize you (but it's a pleasure to make your aquatence)...however those who know me know how I feel about Gibson and Fender, in this economy performance matters...not the name. I do not buy names, end of story.

IK is pushing the 'official' models which is a business model that I do not care for. That does not mean it's bad, I'm right or wrong but to me and to a lot of people I know it is all hype. I have really been very consistent about this over the years and will not change, what matters is my needs.

I have all the sims I have, I have several amps and am getting more (owned quite a few others over almost 40 years) for a reason. I want as many options as I can get. Now that might sound like I'm contradicting myself but I'm not, I want a lot of options but I do not need a lot of duplicated options. And to be brutally honest the 'official' label is like all the other advertising I see in the world, just like adding 'pro' to a name...bs. There is a lot of duplicated options because I can alreay get that sound from another model, why do I need it to say Soldano or Marshall?

I dont buy a car because some race car driver endorses it, I don't buy a guitar because some rock star endorses it, I don't buy groceries because it's what some celebrity endorses...I buy what works for me. AT3 works for me, I'm glad I can get AT3.5 for the 64 bit when I need it (I use samplitude and it's not yet 64 bit)...but more models will not make me perform better, sound better or produce more. I do think AT3 is a cpu hog and was already bloated, therefore it's primary purpose for me is for re-amping and I'm okay with that. But I would have rather seen AT 3.5 move more in a direction that enhanced it's own performance rather than add a mechanism to add more models, which are just names...or the 'official' name.

That's how I see this update and there will be those who will jump all over me, but I speak my mind with honesty. So I am a bit disappointed, but I dont expect anyone else to be and I respect the right of all to disagree with me (and am bracing myself for the attacks that will follow my statements)...but for me this is not what I hoped for.

I do also recognize that IK needs to generate income the best way they can to continue to deliver a fine product to us, but as you say so well "I buy based on cost vs. functionality"



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You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother.

Albert Einstein

Please note your signature Quote at the bottom of the incredibly long explanation ...oh the irony

I yam what I yam

I take my spinach garden fresh, stir-fried with bacon, onions, and a touch of garlic.

that's sounds pretty good

[glokraw]

Another treat is spaghetti squash stir-fried with chorizo and scramble in some egss at the finish The soldano of the breakfast table

[blueman]

(If you want me to help you fixing it, I'll do what I can - but please let's not call what you do 'support' then.)

+1 Thank you!

[blueman]

I've decided I don't know shit about how to make a guitar sound work in the mix so they are just there for the fun of starting them up and wanking around on the guiter.

You got a friend in me

[ObiWonder]

Check your user account to make sure both are registered and authorized, and if they are and still aren't showing up, contact Tech Support.

I won't file a support ticket. You guys need to sort it out yourself and I'm not in a hurry. It's obvious that the function is currently quite flakey, so an update is in order which fixes it. Please admit it.



(If you want me to help you fixing it, I'll do what I can - but please let's not call what you do 'support' then.)

Without a support ticket we won't know whats wrong and won't be able to include those fixes in the next update. If you want support you must file out a support ticket. Its there you just need to use it.

[festeringheap]

Thanks ObiK and Brian for wading through all the posts here and answering questions.

A couple more:

Do I need to be connected just to install Amp 3 Free?
Or do I need to connect to open/register/authorize the Free models?

I am currently trying out a 10 day demo version.
Will installing Amp 3 Free void that somehow?

Thanks

[ObiWonder]

Thanks ObiK and Brian for wading through all the posts here and answering questions.

A couple more:

Do I need to be connected just to install Amp 3 Free?
Or do I need to connect to open/register/authorize the Free models?

I am currently trying out a 10 day demo version.
Will installing Amp 3 Free void that somehow?

Thanks

To install no, after the download you can install it and register/authorize with out an internet connection as long as you have internet access on another computer to do so. The free models will work after the main install. Amplitube 3 Free is free so there is no demo.

[blueman]

Without a support ticket we won't know whats wrong

You don't need a support ticket. If you or IKM is following this thread, we are telling you what is wrong. Is it our responsibility to report it twice for your convenience? It's YOUR product! We are doing you a favor here but alerting you to the problems.

If you want support you must file out a support ticket. Its there you just need to use it.

That is a lost opportunity for IKM and poor customer service. This guy is telling you what is wrong and you are asking him do the work to report it twice. Maybe YOU need to use the support system and file the ticket yourself

[Brittlestem]

Without a support ticket we won't know whats wrong

You don't need a support ticket. If you or IKM is following this thread, we are telling you what is wrong. Is it our responsibility to report it twice for your convenience? It's YOUR product! We are doing you a favor here but alerting you to the problems.

If you want support you must file out a support ticket. Its there you just need to use it.

That is a lost opportunity for IKM and poor customer service. This guy is telling you what is wrong and you are asking him do the work to report it twice. Maybe YOU need to use the support system and file the ticket yourself

[hibidy]

IKMultimedia LOVES folks like you!

I know, and I've spent a mint on their products

[hibidy]

I've decided I don't know shit about how to make a guitar sound work in the mix so they are just there for the fun of starting them up and wanking around on the guiter.

You got a friend in me

[LGK_Dude]

AT2 user here. I got in on the esoundz group buy where they gave us some cool presets for Ampitube X-gear. Will those load into Amplitube 3.5? If so, how do I transfer them, because as of now they are not showing up. Also, how do I go about integrating old projects into Amplitube 3.5? Do I have to manually save all my X-gear presets used in songs and transfer them manually to A3.5?

Thank you for making it 64-bit! Oh how I have waited for this day!

To use your purchased gear, launch your custom shop, click the Account button, then choose 'Restore my Gear'. I could then choose those items in the Legacy menu option in A3.5. Did it once using the standalone, and once using the plugin,
Cheers

Not quite what I'm asking. What I'm looking to do is take PRESETS made in X-gear and use them in Amplitube 3.5. Is this possible? If so, how?

[KeithAdv]

This is an unfortunate turn because it instantly struck me as a marketing innovation for them, rather than a technological innovation such as the created the original Amplitube. It looks as if they realized that you can only sell a comprehensive amp/device modeler once to each customer. However, this new method of selling lets them encourage continued repeat buys and, ultimately, much greater revenue from each buyer.

I think it's brilliant marketing and good on them for figuring out how to make lots of money. However, I can't base my purchasing decisions on my respect for a company's marketing people--I buy based on cost vs. functionality. If IK phases out entirely the comprehensive package for a core + add-ons structure in the future, I'll look for better alternatives--especially those in which the developers are proudest of their technical advances.

We realized a lot of people didn't want all those models that came in the big package and for others it was just out of reach.

We released the update to 64 bit with some new features for free. Great

BUT we also have AmpliTube 3 FREE so now anyone can download and use AmpliTube 3 with some killer amps, effects and cabs as is and if they want to have say an Orange Tiny Terror they can buy JUST that amp. It can save people a lot of money that don't want or even need all of that. Same for bass player. Maybe they want JUST the Fender Bassman and an Ampeg SVT Classic. They would dave a substantial amount of money compared to buy the full AmpliTube Fender and AmpliTube SVX packages. PLUS they can still use IK's Jam Points to save money!

I think you're trying to explain your sales pitch to me as if it's your marketing strategy.

If you're telling me definitively that in the future (Amplitube 4, etc.) there will be a comprehensive Amplitube package that will be the natural upgrade product from Amplitube 2 and 3; i.e., the package that competes toe-to-toe with NI Guitar Rig, then I'll be quite happy. I think Amplitube is the best amp sim product. I have all the Amplitubes and an embarrasing amount of other IK products, all of which I use and enjoy.

If somewhere in your marketing minds you plan to phase out or otherwise cripple the comprehensive package to prioritize one-off sales you're going to lose me and people like me. (Of course, I might belong to a small minority so it doesn't matter.) The fact is, I don't want to fiddle about buying Orange amp this or Marshall amp that. I want a smokin' guitar sim with a wide range of believable tonalities that I can slam into my DAW and quickly use to make music for other people's videos. As long as you've got that, we're good.

On the other hand, if this marketing strategy somehow messes up the base product that brought you to this dance in the first place (and I can foresee plenty of ways for that to happen), if it somehow makes it harder, more fiddly, or ultimately prohibitively more expensive for me to do what I need, I'll have to pick something else and move on.

[ObiWonder]

Without a support ticket we won't know whats wrong

You don't need a support ticket. If you or IKM is following this thread, we are telling you what is wrong. Is it our responsibility to report it twice for your convenience? It's YOUR product! We are doing you a favor here but alerting you to the problems.

If you want support you must file out a support ticket. Its there you just need to use it.

That is a lost opportunity for IKM and poor customer service. This guy is telling you what is wrong and you are asking him do the work to report it twice. Maybe YOU need to use the support system and file the ticket yourself

We are following the thread but support works directly with development, I on the other hand do not. I'm not in Italy and do not see then day to day. I'm trying to help you and show you the fastest way to get support. The support is there but if you choose to not use it then that is your choice. I can not file a support ticket for you under my account when I'm not experiencing your problems on my system. Plus I do not know all the details pertaining to your system or DAW. http://www.ikmultimedia.com/Support.php

This is an unfortunate turn because it instantly struck me as a marketing innovation for them, rather than a technological innovation such as the created the original Amplitube. It looks as if they realized that you can only sell a comprehensive amp/device modeler once to each customer. However, this new method of selling lets them encourage continued repeat buys and, ultimately, much greater revenue from each buyer.

I think it's brilliant marketing and good on them for figuring out how to make lots of money. However, I can't base my purchasing decisions on my respect for a company's marketing people--I buy based on cost vs. functionality. If IK phases out entirely the comprehensive package for a core + add-ons structure in the future, I'll look for better alternatives--especially those in which the developers are proudest of their technical advances.

We realized a lot of people didn't want all those models that came in the big package and for others it was just out of reach.

We released the update to 64 bit with some new features for free. Great

BUT we also have AmpliTube 3 FREE so now anyone can download and use AmpliTube 3 with some killer amps, effects and cabs as is and if they want to have say an Orange Tiny Terror they can buy JUST that amp. It can save people a lot of money that don't want or even need all of that. Same for bass player. Maybe they want JUST the Fender Bassman and an Ampeg SVT Classic. They would dave a substantial amount of money compared to buy the full AmpliTube Fender and AmpliTube SVX packages. PLUS they can still use IK's Jam Points to save money!

I think you're trying to explain your sales pitch to me as if it's your marketing strategy.

If you're telling me definitively that in the future (Amplitube 4, etc.) there will be a comprehensive Amplitube package that will be the natural upgrade product from Amplitube 2 and 3; i.e., the package that competes toe-to-toe with NI Guitar Rig, then I'll be quite happy. I think Amplitube is the best amp sim product. I have all the Amplitubes and an embarrasing amount of other IK products, all of which I use and enjoy.

If somewhere in your marketing minds you plan to phase out or otherwise cripple the comprehensive package to prioritize one-off sales you're going to lose me and people like me. (Of course, I might belong to a small minority so it doesn't matter.) The fact is, I don't want to fiddle about buying Orange amp this or Marshall amp that. I want a smokin' guitar sim with a wide range of believable tonalities that I can slam into my DAW and quickly use to make music for other people's videos. As long as you've got that, we're good.

On the other hand, if this marketing strategy somehow messes up the base product that brought you to this dance in the first place (and I can foresee plenty of ways for that to happen), if it somehow makes it harder, more fiddly, or ultimately prohibitively more expensive for me to do what I need, I'll have to pick something else and move on.

We have no plans to screw any of our current customers over. We always have big plans for the future and I'm sure we'll be surprising you with the stuff in store...

[blueman]

Never mind