ValhallaRoom 1.5.1 Released. New Electric Blue GUI

[valhallasound]

Btw, turns out the mouse-over wheel control works even when the global hook is denied. (XP SP3)

I tried turning the global hook into a thread based hook. It didn't work. I'll keep looking into this, but for now it sounds like we know why the hook is being requested.

BTW, are you using Comodo Firewall?

[V'ger]

Yes

[jonahs]

OSX bug? in Logic if you click on any of the number boxes to manually enter a value then type your input the text is white. If you double click the value is deselected, but focus stays in the selection box which is really confusing when the data is invisible. Thanks for including this method of value entry though it seems most people don't use it.

A dumb question, but why does depth use a percentage? The text says "controls the perceived distance from the source" wouldn't that be a straight up number? Being 100% away from something is an odd way to put it. Unless that distance is being dynamically calculated as you change knobs? Is the depth value different for each of the reverb types?

. Still, does anyone really use mousewheel on knobs and sliders? It's too coarse an adjust imo.

I use trackpad gestures as a virtual mouse wheel all the time. Hardly having to click and hold was one of my considerations in purchasing.

I appreciate the size of the gui. I often use my laptop at arms length or more while I play on keys, guitar or especially drums.

I have some time to kill while a huge batch of audio processes. Here are some pointless feature requests:

"Real" reverb time display. That is how long from when sound input stops to when the reverb ends. The decay time isn't really an accurate predictor of this.

Reverb type tool tips. I was reading the ValhallaRoom site and the description of all 4 algorithms was nice to see. It would be helpful if while switching algorithms I was able to remind myself of the difference between say large chamber and large room.

Custom tool tip info for our user made presets that showed up while in the preset browser. You would enter info by double clicking on the tool tip area and it would remain hidden and function as it does now unless you were in the preset browser. Maybe on mouse over to?

Is there a way to make ValhallaRoom switch pages between early and late while using TouchOSC, Logic and an ipod? It's not ideal to have to manually switch tabs to see the values I'm changing. The control is also a bit steppy. Does it have to do with the acceleration that's unique(I think) to ValhallaRoom? I hope not because I really like that feature with a trackpad. I see you can disable it, but you have to do it per control. Then I would need two sets of presets.

[valhallasound]

OSX bug? in Logic if you click on any of the number boxes to manually enter a value then type your input the text is white. If you double click the value is deselected, but focus stays in the selection box which is really confusing when the data is invisible. Thanks for including this method of value entry though it seems most people don't use it.

I like to think of it as "secret text." Seriously, do you want everyone to know what number you are typing in? It's the same reason you cover the keypad with your hand when you are at an ATM.

*sigh* OK, I'll look at meeting your TOTALLY UNREASONABLE REQUEST this week. I'm working on the preset prev/next buttons and the mix lock. The prev/next buttons should be easy, due to some code changes I made for v1.0.3. The mix lock is more an issue of "how do I put it into the GUI in a way I like?" Anyway, I'll try to get a fix for the invisible text in there.

A dumb question, but why does depth use a percentage? The text says "controls the perceived distance from the source" wouldn't that be a straight up number? Being 100% away from something is an odd way to put it. Unless that distance is being dynamically calculated as you change knobs? Is the depth value different for each of the reverb types?

The Depth slider could also be called the "Early/Late Mix" slider, but that wouldn't fit on the GUI. It controls the mix of early and late reflections. Which ends up corresponding quite well to changing the perceived distance between the source and the receiver. This is an old algorithmic reverb trick, first used on the 224 (which actually shaped the output taps from the main reverb loop, as there were no early reflections per se in that box), and later used in the Eventide SP2016 and other boxes.

. Still, does anyone really use mousewheel on knobs and sliders? It's too coarse an adjust imo.

I use trackpad gestures as a virtual mouse wheel all the time. Hardly having to click and hold was one of my considerations in purchasing.

I appreciate the size of the gui. I often use my laptop at arms length or more while I play on keys, guitar or especially drums.

I also use the mouse wheel. In ValhallaRoom, it allows for some nice fine tuning of the parameter.

I have some time to kill while a huge batch of audio processes. Here are some pointless feature requests:

"Real" reverb time display. That is how long from when sound input stops to when the reverb ends. The decay time isn't really an accurate predictor of this.

The Decay slider shows the RT60, which is how long it takes for the mid frequencies to decay away to 1/1000th of the original level (i.e. -60dB, hence the 60 in RT60). It doesn't get more scientificallogical than that. Much better than the "hell if I know" of ValhallaShimmer. The algorithms in ValhallaRoom were designed to have a pretty precise decay.

Now, if you are using a longish Early Size, and sending this to the late reverb, this will extend the decay time by the Early Size.

Reverb type tool tips. I was reading the ValhallaRoom site and the description of all 4 algorithms was nice to see. It would be helpful if while switching algorithms I was able to remind myself of the difference between say large chamber and large room.

I'll look into this. Probably not enough room to describe all 4 algorithms at a time, but I might be able to put a description for the active preset.

Custom tool tip info for our user made presets that showed up while in the preset browser. You would enter info by double clicking on the tool tip area and it would remain hidden and function as it does now unless you were in the preset browser. Maybe on mouse over to?

That might be tricky with the current framework. I'll look into it, but no promises.

Is there a way to make ValhallaRoom switch pages between early and late while using TouchOSC, Logic and an ipod? It's not ideal to have to manually switch tabs to see the values I'm changing. The control is also a bit steppy. Does it have to do with the acceleration that's unique(I think) to ValhallaRoom? I hope not because I really like that feature with a trackpad. I see you can disable it, but you have to do it per control. Then I would need two sets of presets.

I don't have an iThing that can run TouchOSC at the current time, so no way of testing this.

Sean Costello

[bM3w]

I've changed the installer, so that the uninstaller files go in the same Valhalla DSP directory as the factory presets. On my Windows 7 machine, this directory can be found at C:\ProgramData\Valhalla DSP, LLC\ValhallaRoom. The updates are in the same 1.0.3 links as before.

Thank you!

Oh and what was the last word on +/- buttons to step through presets? Really miss that feature...

I'll be working on that feature this week. Not sure when it will be posted - probably early next week.

Fantastic

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

The mix lock is more an issue of "how do I put it into the GUI in a way I like?" Anyway, I'll try to get a fix for the invisible text in there.

someone mentioned clicking within the slider itself, which seems quite an elegant option..or a double-click to distinguish it from normal usage (double-click, also, to reverse state)

maybe changing the colour / shade of the slider to indicate would also be easy to implement

[John-E34]

I like to think of it as "secret text." Seriously, do you want everyone to know what number you are typing in? It's the same reason you cover the keypad with your hand when you are at an ATM.

*sigh* OK, I'll look at meeting your TOTALLY UNREASONABLE REQUEST this week.

As I stated earlier, I'll watch this thread... Smart coder, but a Moron with PR.

No sale here.

[oneshotdeal]

Sarcasm is hard.

[TristezaOrange]

I like to think of it as "secret text." Seriously, do you want everyone to know what number you are typing in? It's the same reason you cover the keypad with your hand when you are at an ATM.

*sigh* OK, I'll look at meeting your TOTALLY UNREASONABLE REQUEST this week.

As I stated earlier, I'll watch this thread... Smart coder, but a Moron with PR.

No sale here.

I think he was just being funny!

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I like to think of it as "secret text." Seriously, do you want everyone to know what number you are typing in? It's the same reason you cover the keypad with your hand when you are at an ATM.

*sigh* OK, I'll look at meeting your TOTALLY UNREASONABLE REQUEST this week.

As I stated earlier, I'll watch this thread... Smart coder, but a Moron with PR.

No sale here.

I hope you're kidding because it's clear to everyone else that Sean was.

[John-E34]

I hope you're kidding because it's clear to everyone else that Sean was.

Sorry, but I'm not kidding.

If you can write DSP Code, go do it... If you can do it well, then reap the benifits.

If you cannot draw, don't try to convince everyone else, that their taste in drawing is crap.

[Shy]

Please, just go draw your own plugin, this moron developer doesn't deserve you as a customer.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I hope you're kidding because it's clear to everyone else that Sean was.

Sorry, but I'm not kidding.

If you can write DSP Code, go do it... If you can do it well, then reap the benifits.

If you cannot draw, don't try to convince everyone else, that their taste in drawing is crap.

1. Clearly Sean can write DSP code and IS reaping the benefits.

2. The UI issue is a matter of taste. As a musician, I'd expect you to understand how that works. If you don't like the UI enough to prevent you from buying what's an otherwise excellent sounding plugin, then fine. Don't buy it. You certainly don't need to keep posting in this thread. Especially if you're going to direct words like "moron" towards Sean when the only person that's coming across as foolish, is you.

[michu]

I hope you're kidding because it's clear to everyone else that Sean was.

Sorry, but I'm not kidding.

If you can write DSP Code, go do it... If you can do it well, then reap the benifits.

If you cannot draw, don't try to convince everyone else, that their taste in drawing is crap.

1. Clearly Sean can write DSP code and IS reaping the benefits.

2. The UI issue is a matter of taste. As a musician, I'd expect you to understand how that works. If you don't like the UI enough to prevent you from buying what's an otherwise excellent sounding plugin, then fine. Don't buy it. You certainly don't need to keep posting in this thread. Especially if you're going to direct words like "moron" towards Sean when the only person that's coming across as foolish, is you.

I think John meant Sean's PR skills...
John, is seems to me that to almost everyone apart from you Sean comes across as a skillful, knowledgable (and willing to share the knowledge) and dedicated person with a lot of sense of humour. also, your quote omitted a few next sentences, where he explained when one can expect him to attempt to fix the problem.
if what you suggest is that Sean should replace his current way of communicating on fora with some polished, corporate type of PR adressing the lowest common denominator type of customer you may find yourself outnumbered a bit

@Sean
i know nil about Macs, Logic nor OSC, but is seems to me that adding page switching as an automatable parameter would do the trick...

[TitusRaindrops]

I like to think of it as "secret text." Seriously, do you want everyone to know what number you are typing in? It's the same reason you cover the keypad with your hand when you are at an ATM.

*sigh* OK, I'll look at meeting your TOTALLY UNREASONABLE REQUEST this week.

As I stated earlier, I'll watch this thread... Smart coder, but a Moron with PR.

No sale here.

W.T.F?