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Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue May 17, 2011 8:51 pm

Uncle E wrote:
Hink wrote:that looks intersting Eric, I do want a master volume though (I'm sure adding a weber mod for that would not be difficult though nor is the 1/2 power switch)..I'll be keeping that in mind, thanx (you might get a call from me down the line on this)
The JCM800 and 2550/2555 Jubilee kits have master volumes. Personally, I really want a 2555.

I prefer the 2550 and get the 1/2 power mod from weber (15 dollars), in the mods on the page you gave me they show how to do the 1/2 power mod with two tubes but the one from weber is for 4 tubes not two (also with their difficulty meter it shows it as very easy which it is), so it should work or just buy the few parts. $832.50 for the 2550 with cabinet is in the same ballpark as weber building the 18 watt but I would have the extra power though I wouldn't need it. That would be doable as well (but I still have to hold off until next winter unless something changes)

I have a lot of time to think this through, my Frenzel, Boogie and Egnater will do well for me in the meantime so now the question is what direction to take and that will hinge on what I learn over the months to come. I do want to get the iso cab first...if it ever comes out. Plus I have a few other projects I want to get done too.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:17 pm

oh wait, the 2550 already has the 1/2 power switch

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:07 am

Quick update about the Anniversary :
It is an incredible amp, period.

Got it in the morning, seller's a great guy, we even discovered we have mutual friends. Looong coffee break ...

Spent most of the afternoon with a buddy who was dying to prove his theory that the TSL 100W is an improved version of the Anniversary, in short, far from it.

Whatever we threw at the duo - it was not even funny.

Anybody want to trade his Anniversary for a mint TSL ?

Atm I'm only scratching the surface, the options are overwhelming.
And every variant sounds real, 3D and big.

LP only yet, 100W only yet, Park 412 with G12-35s only yet.

Clean channel so good it's scary - you don't even miss any FX.
It's a different, more even type of clean than Fender or Vox.
Stays clean, too, across the gain range but shifts character.
No wonder Johnny A prefers this amp ...
Crunch A is Plexi territory, Crunch B is 2203 and Crunch C is JCM 900 (wouldn't have needed that last option).
Crunch A & B alone are worth the amp.
Lead was the big surprise for me, once you learned how it ticks this channel can give you some cool low- to mid-gain tones different to the other channels.
Each channel can be set quite clean, with enough make-up gain to be actually usable.

All these options can be perfectly matched in volume between the 3 channels.
Overall voicing is rather balanced, too.
With a tiny bit of Marshall experience it's extremely easy to dial in all these tones, completely different from e.g. Mark Boogies.
It's one of the most quiet amps I've seen yet.

And, ideal for me, as expected it can't even begin to touch the uncivilized roar of my 1987, but it covers most other classic Marshall tones gracefully - talk about a win-win situation.

Ymmv,
susiwong

Like I said, these are initial impressions and there is still a lot left to explore, looking forward to it !

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:15 am

Uncle E wrote:btw, we're a Ceriatone dealer now. Can you say 10% off?

Count me in for an OTS or HC30 one of these days, hopefully before this year is over.
I'm sure you can get 230V versions ?
Cheers,
susiwong

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:36 am

Hink wrote:I'm not 'too green' is the proper term, though it would be a no brainer if my father was alive. However note when I say I want to do this, it's point to point wiring and really pretty straight forward stuff (except for biasing and that is not all that either). I do have enough knowledge to build on, there are pleenty of resources for earning more and of course like I said I would pay a tech to inspect it.

My comments were not meant in a negative way at all.

I simply wouldn't trust one of my amps to just anybody willing to try his luck.
My two techs can look at any schematic of a tube amp (except maybe for digital switching parts or PCB monsters like a Blackstar

) and tell you straight away what job a certain resistor or cap has in that circuit, what tolerances are acceptable, if and how it is tonally relevant and what will change when you change that component. And that's only the beginning ...

Everything else is amateur to me, first of all including myself.

I'd much rather concentrate on my own strengths than trying to do work I'm not qualified for.
It would be different as castaway on the proverbial island, I'm not a coward but I try to be pragmatic.
So don't get me wrong, please,

susiwong

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:47 am

susiwong wrote:
Hink wrote:I'm not 'too green' is the proper term, though it would be a no brainer if my father was alive. However note when I say I want to do this, it's point to point wiring and really pretty straight forward stuff (except for biasing and that is not all that either). I do have enough knowledge to build on, there are pleenty of resources for earning more and of course like I said I would pay a tech to inspect it.
My comments were not meant in a negative way at all.
I simply wouldn't trust one of my amps to just anybody willing to try his luck.
My two techs can look at any schematic of a tube amp (except maybe for digital switching parts or PCB monsters like a Blackstar ) and tell you straight away what job a certain resistor or cap has in that circuit, what tolerances are acceptable, if and how it is tonally relevant and what will change when you change that component. And that's only the beginning ...
Everything else is amateur to me, first of all including myself.
I'd much rather concentrate on my own strengths than trying to do work I'm not qualified for.
It would be different as castaway on the proverbial island, I'm not a coward but I try to be pragmatic.
So don't get me wrong, please,
susiwong

but as you see you're not that far off and I understand that, I know my skills...it's the knowledge I need to concentrate on. The 2550 is probably a better amp for me, now I will browse some forums I have found, read some mateial and then decide what is best but given what Eric has posted a 2550 either with or without a case but fully built is very tempting and I can be lazy. I love the fact that you can set the bias, I love the 50/25 watt switch, I love there's an fx loop.

I still want to learn to build an amp, weber has one that is assembled but you can monkey with called so watt that's around 250 dollars, perhaps I can find an old amp to refurbish and learn from...maybe that amp will be my boogie (if I screw it up Frenzel will fix it).

The 800 model (50 watt) is tempting too (put in my own 1/2 power switch. That's what is sweet about not caring about names, where else am I going to get an 800 (completely assembled) for 895 dollars? (really $805.50) I'm young, I can wait to build an amp another year if I want...hell it took me three years to finally build that dulcimer

Honestly I was thinking about spending around 1k next winter, maybe a Frenzel, I thought about going a little cheaper with a Bogner Alchemist but now I could even get a plexi and add the same amster volume I did to mine and then I would have my boogie and the amp I traded for my first boogie in the 80s (my old plexi). So many options and I have plenty of time, I know this thought scares the crap out of me but my daughter will be 16 in the fall and it might not be all that long before her bedroom becomes Hink's studio...by the time I'm 60 I might have more amps than AT has models

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:48 am

btw the new amp sounds awesome, have fun

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:56 am

Hink wrote:btw the new amp sounds awesome, have fun

Thanks ! It does ...
And it wasn't much more than 1/3 of a new TSL.

Cheers,
susiwong

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:59 am

Hink wrote:...by the time I'm 60 I might have more amps than AT has models

That's the spirit !

We'll work on it.

Cheers,
susiwong

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:03 am

susiwong wrote:
Hink wrote:...by the time I'm 60 I might have more amps than AT has models
That's the spirit !
We'll work on it.
Cheers,
susiwong

btw dont you just love the retro look of the Frenzel in this pic?

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:06 am

susiwong wrote:
Hink wrote:...by the time I'm 60 I might have more amps than AT has models
That's the spirit !
We'll work on it.
Cheers,
susiwong

Yeah, but will you have as many amps as I'll have ibanez's?

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:09 am

hibidy wrote:
susiwong wrote:
Hink wrote:...by the time I'm 60 I might have more amps than AT has models
That's the spirit !
We'll work on it.
Cheers,
susiwong
Yeah, but will you have as many amps as I'll have ibanez's?

but I'll be louder

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:11 am

btw isnt that ibanezai?

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:14 am

Hink wrote:btw isnt that ibanezai?

no no, it's ibanezvai

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:17 am

oy vai

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