MixControl Pro (Group Buy Started)

[Ghostwave]

update the ui and add some of the, requested, eq functionality

which I would gladly pay to upgrade to.

[DNR Collaborative]

update the ui and add some of the, requested, eq functionality

which I would gladly pay to upgrade to.

There will be no upgrade fee for current MixControl users.


Steven

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

update the ui and add some of the, requested, eq functionality

which I would gladly pay to upgrade to.

There will be no upgrade fee for current MixControl users.


Steven

i was rewarded my copy of mc for beta-testing and composing a demo piece for one of the predator soundsets

from what you have said, so far, it seems i will be taken care of with regard to a free upgrade

but my interest extends past self-interest..you seem to be asking for opinions, unless i am mistaken, so i'm just offering mine

imo, it doesn't engender much faith in a company's support longevity, that they would ditch a perfectly good program that never had any really big updates...i'm not the only one who thinks that there isn't much that needs doing...it's not like it was built on age-old code that is no longer compatible, requiring a complete new build...i wont buy any software from a company that can't guarantee more than 2 years use

some other requests have been to split the unit up into individual plugs, for those who might want just the eq on a track etc...these suggestions were only as additions to the main unit....in the end, it would seem that mc 'small' had such a low cpu hit that it probably didn't make much difference

mixcontrol has always been sold at a price less than it deserved to, but in such a saturated market, it's the pricing that made it unique...high quality at a no-brainer price...i see this as the way forward...check sonimus and valhalla for companies that inspire sales 'on faith'...i mention pricing because i have a suspicion that you would price it at the 200 dollar mark, that had been the plan for mc, but that would be imposible given mc's pricing history

i've seen you criticise mc's pricing, but how can it be worth more if you think it needs to be dumped

at a 200 dollar pricepoint, you pit yourself against more competition in an oversaturated marketplace

i would rather have 10000 people buy my product for $50 than for 2500 to buy at $200

as for the limiter issue..limiter is part of the chain for this type of plug...the minute you force people to load a limiter separately, it starts to defeat the idea....there are just too many limiters on the market already

i hope you take this in the spirit intended

you have a great product that's in need of a refresh, why not put all those resources into something unique ??

[JasonSpatola]

It was actually Reason's idea to get rid of the limiter, but now he may have changed his mind about that particular direction.

I assume he's still in touch with Michael Olsen, and is still giving him input regarding the next version of MixControl/its replacement in the final days of this transition.

[DNR Collaborative]

i've seen you criticise mc's pricing, but how can it be worth more if you think it needs to be dumped

at a 200 dollar pricepoint, you pit yourself against more competition in an oversaturated marketplace

i would rather have 10000 people buy my product for $50 than for 2500 to buy at $200

I don't recall ever making a statement about pricing before. Maybe there is some confusion here.


Steven

[Ghostwave]

I haven't been on KVR for that long but I can safely say that a major part of DNR's good reputation was built on MixControl.
I'm not saying your other products aren't good, just that MC is the product which has been most talked about here, and not just now.
Ditching the name (and the product) would mean losing part of your aura MC help built. At the end of the day, it's your (business) decision but as has been previously said, MC has always been regarded as an excellent product.
Just don't under-estimate the power of publicity.

There will be no upgrade fee for current MixControl users.

and thank you for this.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

It was actually Reason's idea to get rid of the limiter

to elaborate, i think the kind of person that uses mc 'large' on the out channel, does so for convenience, one cohesive gui and the feeling that the 'strip' is more than the sum of its parts

once you have to instantiate a separate limiter, then why not mix and match eq's and compressors also ??

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

i've seen you criticise mc's pricing, but how can it be worth more if you think it needs to be dumped

at a 200 dollar pricepoint, you pit yourself against more competition in an oversaturated marketplace

i would rather have 10000 people buy my product for $50 than for 2500 to buy at $200

I don't recall ever making a statement about pricing before. Maybe there is some confusion here.


Steven

haha, i thought you had criticised his pricing being so low as to be practically giving it away (along with all chances of a successful business)

i'm just guessing $200 because mc was supposedly gonna be priced as such

[DNR Collaborative]

haha, i thought you had criticised his pricing being so low as to be practically giving it away (along with all chances of a successful business)

i'm just guessing $200 because mc was supposedly gonna be priced as such

Ah, sorry. No, we are offering this with a free copy of the new software we are developing currently. It will allow us to build a userbase for the new software and allow us to gather feedback in a much more efficient manner and give us the ability to build future software versions according to properly documented user feedback. We intend on building a completely structured software development schedule for each and every software project that we embark on. Once we have the initial interface designs of this project are presented, I'm sure people will be quite satisfied.

Regarding the limiter, I know Reason has very particular feelings about it, and again, I won't pretend to understand the mechanics of it all, and I can't get in touch with him right now as it seems he is hiding on me As soon as I have some communication with him, I will ask him again to explain what his thoughts are.


Steven

[manducator]

Thanks for trying to help, but I'm afraid you have the old version as well. v1.0.6 is available for quite a while now.

The new version, which is available as a demo download from their site, has version 1.0.7r and supports external sidechain

Oops, didn't know that myself, sorry... 1.07 is on my account now.

[rlahalla]

Regarding the limiter, I know Reason has very particular feelings about it, and again, I won't pretend to understand the mechanics of it all, and I can't get in touch with him right now as it seems he is hiding on me As soon as I have some communication with him, I will ask him again to explain what his thoughts are.

Sorry, losing the limiter was my idea. I know this is going to start a huge debate about mixing and mastering, but I don't think a limiter is an essential mixing tool. If people took less consideration for limiters, mastering engineers wouldn't have such a hard time with tracks that are sent to them with nearly zero dynamic range. This is my professional opinion.

If we want a mixing/mastering discussion though, we should do that outside the realm of this thread.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

I don't think a limiter is an essential mixing tool

except for those who use this as a channel strip, on independent channels....mutilating and mashing the sound of tracks, i then use a limiter at the end for further squashing and protecting from crazy peaks

this is before anything gets near a final mix

am i the only one who thinks the cpu usage reasonable enough to not have to only use it on the output ??

[Nielzie]

I don't think a limiter is an essential mixing tool

except for those who use this as a channel strip, on independent channels....

Exactly how I'm using it too

am i the only one who thinks the cpu usage reasonable enough to not have to only use it on the output ??

Nope, same here. That's what I love about MixControl. The quality/cpu usage ratio is excellent so without any hesitation you can use it anywhere and as many instances as you like

[rlahalla]

Why wouldn't you just turn individual channels down instead of putting a limiter on it?

[Nielzie]

Why wouldn't you just turn individual channels down instead of putting a limiter on it?

That's what I do most often and in fact I'm not even much of a limiter/compressor user anyways, but somehow I find it convenient to have them onboard, just in case. And it has occured (although not often) that I used both onboard limiter or compressor on specific sounds in specific channels

The EQ gets most usage here and it's excellent. The gate on the other hand, I can't recall to have used it, but that's probably because I never feel the urge to use any gates (or know how to effectly use them ) But if that might occur I'm sure it will be convenient to being able to reach for if it stays included.