I'm quite sure you are correctrobojam wrote:I seem to remember an interview from years back where one of the band said that the time signature change was in there to make it easier for the sax player to play his parts.Hink wrote:also the time signature change in Money was interesting as wellBERFAB wrote:OT, but I picked up that DVD at Best Buy for a couple of bucks awhile back. Great disc. Especially when you get to see a bit of Alan Parsons' process.Hink wrote: BERFAB, I watched the making of Dark Side of the Moon on Netflix a few weeks ago and that was similar to what they said and I took it to heart myself...'nothing' inserted in the right places really creates the feel IMHO.
The big standout to me was Waters (IIRC) playing the signature bass lick for Money on an acoustic guitar along with the blues progression which he based it on. And then watching it transform into the art rock tune that we now all know. Fantastic.
Cheers
-B
Guitarists that hold back
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5267 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
I find it difficult to put into words exactly what I am getting at so I can see why some might have misinterpreted that to mean I don't like simplicity, space etc. I'm not necessarily talking about blazing solos or complicated metal riffs either. Just something that shows what this guitarist is capable of. Like the solo in Mother by David Gilmour, a very basic song but then this beautiful melodic solo. Or Gary Moore's Still Got the Blues which is simple and beautiful but then there's that great little flurry at the end of the solo.
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- KVRian
- 1174 posts since 29 Apr, 2008
A crazy solo is always fun to listen to and watch, but I don't listen to solos repeatedly, almost never really. Complementing the song is definitely more important to me. I love the guitar in Natalie Merchant's "Carnival".
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- Topic Starter
- 5267 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
It very nice. There's more to it than just a simple arp or chord structure though. There is some nice feeling in the guitar parts.
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- KVRAF
- 2844 posts since 1 Jan, 2003
I understand what you're getting at, I think. I'm not a fan (not not a fan either, I guess) but I feel this way about Robert Cray. I just want him to take off, he appears capable, but sometimes it seems he can't leave tasteful behind and just let it fly.morelia wrote:I find it difficult to put into words exactly what I am getting at so I can see why some might have misinterpreted that to mean I don't like simplicity, space etc. I'm not necessarily talking about blazing solos or complicated metal riffs either. Just something that shows what this guitarist is capable of. Like the solo in Mother by David Gilmour, a very basic song but then this beautiful melodic solo. Or Gary Moore's Still Got the Blues which is simple and beautiful but then there's that great little flurry at the end of the solo.
(Not to say I could do either- tasteful or fly.)
On the other hand there are guitarists who hold back perfectly- Steve Cropper comes to mind.
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
I always feel a little funny joining in these threads, because a close friend of mine is one of these incredibly talented shredding guitarists, and he personally knows some of the people who are likely to get listed here. As for me? I'm just a nobody 
Anyway, I've always said that I wished I had my friend's musical ability, combined with my own sense of self-restraint. It seems like the combination of the two is a rare thing indeed.
Anyway, I've always said that I wished I had my friend's musical ability, combined with my own sense of self-restraint. It seems like the combination of the two is a rare thing indeed.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5267 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
I'll check them out. I just find the concept of restrain interesting. Sort of like Usaine (sp?) Bolt running the 100 in 18 seconds and no one ever knowing he is a speed freak.
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- KVRAF
- 2719 posts since 23 Mar, 2005 from Detroit
I have that DVD too. Got it years ago. "The space between the notes..." quote is always remembered by me as well.BERFAB wrote:OT, but I picked up that DVD at Best Buy for a couple of bucks awhile back. Great disc. Especially when you get to see a bit of Alan Parsons' process.Hink wrote: BERFAB, I watched the making of Dark Side of the Moon on Netflix a few weeks ago and that was similar to what they said and I took it to heart myself...'nothing' inserted in the right places really creates the feel IMHO.
The big standout to me was Waters (IIRC) playing the signature bass lick for Money on an acoustic guitar along with the blues progression which he based it on. And then watching it transform into the art rock tune that we now all know. Fantastic.
Cheers
-B
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5267 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
Now there's a reasonsusiwong wrote:An interviewer once asked Malcolm Young why he never played solos.
He answered :
"It interfers with my drinking."
Lol,
susiwong
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- Fearer of cheese
- 3216 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from UK
Off the top of my head I've got to suggest Richard Thompson and Mark Knopfler. Both remarkedly gifted players with unique styles, yet neither goes for fretboard wankery for it's own sake, particularly RT, both solo when it's needed and then it's done with taste and restraint imo.
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- Banned
- 9890 posts since 14 Nov, 2006
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- KVRAF
- 1655 posts since 2 Jun, 2003
To a guitarist who wishes he/she could play parts so atmospheric and melodic that each could be the basis for a whole new song, Neal Schon isn't showing an ounce of restraint. He's showing off! 
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- KVRist
- 424 posts since 20 Dec, 2010
Hah. Well I had always wondered why.susiwong wrote:An interviewer once asked Malcolm Young why he never played solos.
He answered :
"It interfers with my drinking."
Lol,
susiwong
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- KVRAF
- 3864 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
Just like it does with my spelling.DF2R wrote:Hah. Well I had always wondered why.susiwong wrote:An interviewer once asked Malcolm Young why he never played solos.
He answered :
"It interfers with my drinking."
Lol,
susiwong
interferes
Oh well, goodnight,
susiwong

