KVR Audio

Rosebudd · Post by **Rosebudd** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:59 pm

Damn. I thought it was days, days ago. so this is more days!

I hereby make a motion for pre-orders and subsequently instant access to the current build

states · Post by **states** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:12 am

Rosebudd wrote:Damn. I thought it was days, days ago. so this is more days!

I hereby make a motion for pre-orders and subsequently instant access to the current build

+1 more than willing to pay, even for an untested/unstble version. i miss my Synthex so much ....

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:23 am

I asked about doing presets when this thread started but i was too late...

Anyway i'll do a bank for this for sure and maybe for the PolyKB II too.

Ingo

Gosh · Post by **Gosh** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:45 am

hi lotuzia,
can you comment on the cpu consumption of synthix, please. is it in the same league as the polykbII or more comparable to the xils3 which is somewhat lighter on my aging quadcore?
looking forward to the release and saving up some money.
cheers

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:06 am

Gosh wrote:hi lotuzia,
can you comment on the cpu consumption of synthix, please. is it in the same league as the polykbII or more comparable to the xils3 which is somewhat lighter on my aging quadcore?
looking forward to the release and saving up some money.
cheers

Hi Gosh,

I'd say its in the exact same league as the PolyKB II atm.

So on my equally aging Quad Core 9650, some stanard basses and leads might be as light as 5/7%, where some pads with unisson and a big release will it up to 55% ( but you can do worse

)

Some optimisation of the code is still possible, and it should be possible to gain an overall 10% of the CPU charge, but this would take another month so dont expect it with the first version released.

To Rosebudd, States and Ingo : We hear you, and we'll see what we can do :

Facts :

The Synthix beta is -very- stable, its an operational synth and could be used in production "as it".

It lacks one or two features ( including a special PWM Special Mode a la Synthex, wich is a mode where you can select only PWM on the original, while no other waveform is selected. This special mode was very tricky to decipher so it takes -much- more times. Atm the PWM mode is VERY close, but can be still be enhanced of some % emulation wise. Then the somewhat traditional PWM mode already implemented will get you very close anyway, its just to reflect the internal very complex original synth circuitry in the best possible way )

There are some other tiny bugs who can occur here and there but I've seen synths sold as V1.0 wich had far more bugs tbh. We might discover some additonal bugs if we release a preorder version, due to the ever increasing diversity of systems, hosts etc. But this is the same for all software, so I dont worry too much as Xils-Lab has always proved to be more than very reactive with these kinds of situations, and anyway it would probably be very similar for a 1.0 )

Then the Preset Library is not yet finished. When I say that it just means that the selection between all submitted presets is not finished. This is a very slow process as it involves many people, and exchange of data. We should however be able to select a best of the Library ( lets say a hundred instruments) and include them in a distribution package. Another 100/120 presets will then be added for the real 1.0 release for a total between 200/225 presets for the final library.

All installers should be checked for a final distribution package. Last time they were checked with a previous beta all was ok, but well you never know

Then I just finished yesterday the separate audio demos ( more than 45mn of presets in isolation but we will probably narrow it to less ). But the Videos tutorials etc are not. This might be of no means to some of you, but should we go the prerelease way the Synthix should also appeal to people who will want/need this kind of material to make their decisions in a way that makes sense. So at least people will be able to "hear" the Synthix on the site.

And best of the best in this case : The preorder price would of course be very appealling

Well what do you guys think ?

LtZ

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:39 am

Lotuzia wrote: Then the Preset Library is not yet finished. When I say that it just means that the selection between all submitted presets is not finished. This is a very slow process as it involves many people, and exchange of data. We should however be able to select a best of the Library ( lets say a hundred instruments) and include them in a distribution package. Another 100/120 presets will then be added for the real 1.0 release for a total between 200/225 presets for the final library.

I remember such kind of "selection process" from the release of Synapse Audio Dune. This took really ages and at the end not even half of the presets were included. Rob Lee had so much left that he could directly release a new bank from the rest...

Ingo

Gosh · Post by **Gosh** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:07 am

thanks for the info lotuzia. i, for one, would be interested in a special pre-order price. i also think it would be a nice move if existing customers (i own both the xils 3 and the polyKB) could be rewarded somehow.
cheers and looking forward to the synthix

Rosebudd · Post by **Rosebudd** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:32 pm

Hey Lotuzia,
all of that sounds fine to me

... as I'd expect with a pre-order really.

PM me if anything comes of it! (I say PM just in case it's too much hassle to do a fully fledged public pre-order thing)

also for the record - it's only because of my experience with Xils 3 & PolyKB I/II and of course Xils' excellent support that I would even consider pre-ordering Synthix

And it's only because of my sheer impatience that I'd even suggest it

Though I hope not to encourage complacency with such enthusiasm!

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:56 pm

We're studying the preorder option and will make announcements probably tomorrow

We were previously thinking of a Group Buy, but now we might do a preorder Group Buy, but we need to make it very simple cos I've seen recently many complicated (or too much sophisticated perhaps ) GBs wich imho dont make life of users, as well as companies, easy. Its also more complicated due to the fact we would like to reward our former users.

Meanwhile let's talk about life with :

THE CHAOX LFO :

The Chaox LFO is Xavier's last creature.

Until now we have lived with rather sophisticated synths wich sometimes had Random as modulation source ( Like Massive or Alchemy ) Random is cool because it adds a static random value to any target parameter.

Say goodbye to static random.

The ChaoX LFO continuously generates in real time random values with smooth transitions : it's no more static.

And welcome to the everchanging and breathing instruments. Whether subtle or drastic, the modulations generated by the Chaos LFO can add a lot to a patch.

And yes it has a nice display when you can really VIEW the Chaox functions ( several types) and also set the rate and amplitude of the Chaox LFO.

ChaoX LFO is one of the two Synthix "special" LFOs

Hope you'll enjoy it !

LtZ

ftech · Post by **ftech** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:24 pm

Lotuzia wrote:We're studying the preorder option and will make announcements probably tomorrow

We were previously thinking of a Group Buy, but now we might do a preorder Group Buy, but we need to make it very simple cos I've seen recently many complicated (or too much sophisticated perhaps ) GBs wich imho dont make life of users, as well as companies, easy. Its also more complicated due to the fact we would like to reward our former users.

Bring that on!!

states · Post by **states** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:23 am

ftech wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:We're studying the preorder option and will make announcements probably tomorrow

We were previously thinking of a Group Buy, but now we might do a preorder Group Buy, but we need to make it very simple cos I've seen recently many complicated (or too much sophisticated perhaps ) GBs wich imho dont make life of users, as well as companies, easy. Its also more complicated due to the fact we would like to reward our former users.

Bring that on!!

excellent idea ! please, by all means, do !

HunterKiller · Post by **HunterKiller** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:39 am

Are you guys doing a 1:1 exact replica of the Synthex factory bank?

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:44 pm

So we're going to DO IT

Synthix PreOrder Group Buy announcement :

Until 100 copies :

New users : 40% Discount
Xils Users : 45% Discount

Between 100 and 250 :

New Users : 45% Discount
Xils USers : 50% Discount

Over 250 copies

New Users : 50% Discount ( ie 84.5 € including ECC Taxes )
Xils Users : 55% Discount ( ie 76 € including ECC taxes )

Over 300 copies :
Additional Gifts.

What You Get :
Almost 1.0 version with 128 presets Library. Complete installers and unlimited version. New versions will only replace your current version (ie like normal updates )

Its very important to note that its a very stable full featured and operational version. We're not asking you to transform into Beta Testers.

What you'll get with 1.0 final version :

1/ Enhanced special PWM A la Synthex mode : It will be added to the current PWM modes, not replacing it. The current PWM modes are already VERY close to the real thing. They are also much more versatile and powerfull. Its the only reason why we didnt release it as a V1.0. ( With the preset proofing process wich is also very long )
2/ Ironing of some tiny Bugs
3/ Another 100 brand new presets to complete the factory library.
4/ Additional tutorials, more complete manual, and pedagogic stuff
5/ Additional audio demos

ETA of the Group Buy :

With SPRING : 21 June 2011 !

We tried to keep the rules 1/ Very simple 2/ Very Friendly

Any questions and comments welcomed

Thanks for reading.

LtZ

brick · Post by **brick** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:50 pm

Wow , this is surprising ! Good luck

Sequent · Post by **Sequent** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:07 pm

So... "ETA of the Group Buy" means that it will begin on June 21?

SYN'X 2.5 Released - Xils-Lab - (Multitimbral Synthex - intro discount-)