paulnasca

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Thu May 05, 2011 6:48 pm

I'm definitely interested in it. Unfortunately, I haven't had much time to play music lately, so I haven't been able to try it out.

Nevertheless, I am very appreciative! Thank you!!!

--Sean

UnderwaterSunlight · Post by **UnderwaterSunlight** » Sun May 08, 2011 4:41 pm

I tested Zyn, the 2.4.1.480beta, in Ableton 8.2.2, Cubase Studio 5.5.3, Reaper 3.76 and Reaper 4.0beta3 today. While Zyn sounds gorgeous (as we all know), it gives all these 4 hosts trouble when I want to quit from the host.
The host-exiting procedure was in all 4 cases reproducibly followed by a message "the program doesn't work any more". When I click on "details", it gives the following (I just cite as an excerpt):

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Error Module Name: Zynaddsubfx.dll_unloaded

I am, btw, on PC with Win7 64bit and I use the 32bit versions of the aforementioned hosts. My audio system is RME 9632. PC is i7-2600 based. Brand new and well maintained.

Please, do keep improving Zyn until we all can have the fully compatible VST version. Your work is well appreciated.

scalternativo · Post by **scalternativo** » Sun May 08, 2011 5:38 pm

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Thank you for your great work in this VST version!

I'm trying it under FL Studio 9. I have a project using 3 or 4 Zyn tracks (i.e. VST instances) and there is a weird, erratic sound output when some of them are working in parallel.
The problems are resolved if I disable threaded processing for all Zyn instances; so, that suggest some threading issues.

I don't expect you to actually fix that; I know threading issues are difficult to track and debug, and I guess the synth code should be pretty complex.
But maybe you just come across something that might be an issue and happen to fix it.

I'd also like to know if it is possible to pick the config and bank files from a directory relative to the DLL, like this:

Code: Select all (#)

   c:\vstplugins\zynaddsubfx
   c:\vstplugins\zynaddsubfx\ZynAddSubFX_VST.dll
   c:\vstplugins\zynaddsubfx\zynaddsubfxXML.cfg
   c:\vstplugins\zynaddsubfx\banks\Arpeggios
   c:\vstplugins\zynaddsubfx\banks\Bass
   c:\vstplugins\zynaddsubfx\banks\...

Regards and thanks for your effort!

deleted · Post by **deleted** » Mon May 30, 2011 4:00 pm

jackoo · Post by **jackoo** » Tue May 31, 2011 7:39 pm

Sidulacra wrote:Is it possible that ZynAddSubFX could be tweaked a little so that if a microtuning was activated with the Retune button, that the state of this setting could be saved and restored in a project, so that each time the synth is opened, one wouldn't have to open the Scale Settings dialog to manually activate it?

Should be possible in principle. Haven't looked at the code though. Good news is I'm upgrading to Win7 64bit. So maybe that when I have some time, try to compile a 64bit version also. But no promises yet, because my free time is next to nothing, at the moment.

Sidulacra wrote:While I'm typing, I thought I'd point out too that in the Instrument Bank dialog, there is a checkbox for Show PADsynth Status. It used to be that when this was checked, the color of any patch made with the PADsynth would be a different color, but this seems to have disappeared in the most recent iterations.

This is 100% my fault. I remember diactivating that piece of code that did the coloring. I guess I forgot to turn it on again.

Someone else here also mentioning something wrong with the ADSR of envelopes... They're on the list...

deleted · Post by **deleted** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:14 am

akira · Post by **akira** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:51 pm

Hi everybody,
I just installed ZynAddSubFX and it seems, that everything went fine...
although I did not item 6 of the install-text

6. Reload Zyn; Go to settings and change the buffer value to an integer multiple of your ASIO buffer size. Put Oscil Size to 512.

Do I have to do this anyway and if yes...
where are these settings? And where do I find the Oscil Size?

Problem solved!

deleted · Post by **deleted** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:34 pm

akira · Post by **akira** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:56 pm

@Sidulacra
Thank You....I checked it by myself 2 minutes after I posted.
Had only one crash so far while loading a certain preset.

Man this a synth...it has so many beautiful sounds, rich in overtones, inspiring to play little sequences, melodies...this thing is wonderful...

THANK YOU JACKOO

UnderwaterSunlight · Post by **UnderwaterSunlight** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:38 pm

we need a zyn version that doesn't crash ableton 8, cubase 5 and reaper 3/4 upon trying to quit from these hosts.

might this be possible ?

i love zyn, but the latest version (x.480) reproducibly crashes the 3 hosts named above.

this is outright awful !

makes zyn unusable in those important hosts !!

though i would love to use it...

jackoo · Post by **jackoo** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:48 pm

seems to be a 64-bit issue... it's not about the host. Actually the problem seems to be unloading the 32bit dll on 64bit operating system.

don't have the adequate debugging tools at the moment... (need 64bit debugger... 64bit compiler..... 64bit operating system to test on)

LE: ok i now have the tools... but this gets deeper than a damn black hole... I've no idea why it crashes when unloading... it's not the GUI threading... removed the whole GUI altogether and still crashes... maybe the pthread lib doesn't work with newer windows versions... Something seems to get lost near ntdll.dll, kernel32.dll and user32.dll. Stack gets corrupted, so I can't trace anything. Behaves very differently than good old WinXP...

So far... I'm afraid this bug overtakes my programming / debugging abilities

jackoo · Post by **jackoo** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:12 pm

UnderwaterSunlight wrote:we need a zyn version that doesn't crash ableton 8, cubase 5 and reaper 3/4 upon trying to quit from these hosts.

might this be possible ?

hello, sad zyn users who experience that...

OK... So I've been still trying [for two full days

] to tear apart this synth, module by module, line by line, and I might have found something. It doesn't crash anymore on my Win7 64bit in VSTHost.

It's possible i've broken something while trying to reassemble it so could anyone who had experienced the unloading crash bug try this alpha version and report back to me?

http://www.mediafire.com/file/yk5ncdh8e ... 0alpha.zip

Need some testers help here!!!

deleted · Post by **deleted** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:43 pm

jackoo · Post by **jackoo** » Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:14 am

The unloading bug never happened on windows XP. Only in newer versions of windows and most probably only on 64 bit.

Your microtuning requirements have not yet been forgotten. Just a little patience.

UnderwaterSunlight · Post by **UnderwaterSunlight** » Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:46 am

Dear Jackoo,

I appreciate your continued efforts on Zyn.
I received your mail and I downloaded the .490 .dll of Zyn.
A s a p I will try this in the 3 hosts/DAW's at my disposal.

Will report back here how it works.

Thanks

paulnasca

KVR Audio

Classic ZynAddSubFX VST download