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BrufordRules · Post by **BrufordRules** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:51 pm

Order done!

The demo crashes Reaper 3.76 on Windows 7 x64 but only on exit.

Great synth by the way

poonna · Post by **poonna** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:54 pm

xavier wrote:
poonna wrote:
Dv wrote:I have installed in the folder suggested by the installer : C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\XILS-lab\Synthix

Will try to uninstall and install somewhere else.
That's also my case, too. The folder is writable. So the problem lies somewhere else, I think.
Hi,

That one of the difficulties of windows 7. This folder is writeable, seems to be accessible by user, but this is not the case. This path doesn't really point to a real folder and seems to be an alias.
The better is to install somewhere like /document/public/XILS-lab/Synthix

Then I guess it's best not to make C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\XILS-lab\Synthix the default installation path in the installer. Most users will just use this default and get this error then.

penguinfromdeep · Post by **penguinfromdeep** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:12 pm

Ordered! Without demoing

That much I trust XILS LAB

Dv · Post by Dv » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:30 pm

xavier wrote: Hi,

That one of the difficulties of windows 7. This folder is writeable, seems to be accessible by user, but this is not the case. This path doesn't really point to a real folder and seems to be an alias.
The better is to install somewhere like /document/public/XILS-lab/Synthix

Thanks for your answer Xavier.

I made a new install on the ProgramData folder (that's where user-writable files are meant to be placed on win 7, isn't it ?) and everything seems ok.

I just realised that I have installed Xils 3 and PolyKb on the program files folder, and I never had problems. Maybe this is linked to the fact that Sonar has to be run as administrator ?

Nevertheless, changing the default installation path suggested by the demo installer should avoid problems.

And last but not least... synthix ordered !

boombaxx · Post by **boombaxx** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:37 pm

Guitare getting it now the midi channel relates to 2 voices on the synth

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:24 pm

penguinfromdeep wrote:Ordered! Without demoing That much I trust XILS LAB

Thanks Mr Penguin

( hope you'll like it !

And thanks DV.

Yes the prefered installed path for Win XP etc is not the one fitted for Win7

So if we dont want to multiply installers, the installers itself should become OS aware and then choose the most appropriate path. This should be doable.

LtZ

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:33 pm

boombaxx wrote:Guitare getting it now the midi channel relates to 2 voices on the synth

Actually in the Guitar mode each layer can be assigned its own midi Channel.

Its a mode especially useful for Guitar players who have Midi interfaces that are able to transmit on several Midi Channels ( ie each string has its own Midi Channel )

With this you can have patches with slightly (or more drastic) different settings for each string or a bass on the E string together with a pad or keys on other strings.

You can even do some open tunings on the Synthix and change them on the fly while not changing anything on the guitar (if that makes sense

) or the opposite, make open tunings on guitar and change the presets to reflect this in a flash.

This mode was required by several guitar players and its pretty unique afaik on a vintage synthesizer. Of course it can be usefull with other controllers as well, as some keyboards wich are multisplit capable, or some organs that have two keyboards + the pedal for the bass.

Well it can be usefull for many things and even us did not have the right free time to explore and exploit all possibilities. Time will tell

Hope its a bit more clear now

LtZ

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:42 pm

poonna wrote:Then I guess it's best not to make C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\XILS-lab\Synthix the default installation path in the installer...

Arrgh! I really hate if you can't select custom paths. I do prefer ALL settings, patches, manuals and necessary files to be copied into ONE folder of choice (e.g. D:\VST32\VSTi_Xils-Synthix). Within that, go nuts with subfolders and files.

Will hopefully be able to check the demo next week, looking forward to it.

biomechanoid · Post by **biomechanoid** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:45 pm

Lotuzia wrote:
Until now we have lived with rather sophisticated synths wich sometimes had Random as modulation source ( Like Massive or Alchemy ) Random is cool because it adds a static random value to any target parameter.

Say goodbye to static random.

The ChaoX LFO continuously generates in real time random values with smooth transitions : it's no more static.

fwiw, alchemy's 'random' lfo's continually generate real time random values too

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:30 pm

biomechanoid wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:
Until now we have lived with rather sophisticated synths wich sometimes had Random as modulation source ( Like Massive or Alchemy ) Random is cool because it adds a static random value to any target parameter.

Say goodbye to static random.

The ChaoX LFO continuously generates in real time random values with smooth transitions : it's no more static.

fwiw, alchemy's 'random' lfo's continually generate real time random values too

Hi Bio I wasnt refering to Alchemy's Lfos in this case, but the random you can choose as a parameter attached to Note On ( That I used a lot in Alchemy btw as like I staed it random is ubercool ). So is there a pattern ( like an advanced S&h, or a more or less erratic/complicated pattern ) or is it real random generated on the fly by a math function ?

Anyway sorry if I made a mistake. On the SYnthix you also smooth the transitions in the random function, control the rate. These LFOs also have their dedicated Modultation Matrix

LtZ

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:33 pm

dalor wrote:
poonna wrote:Then I guess it's best not to make C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\XILS-lab\Synthix the default installation path in the installer...
Arrgh! I really hate if you can't select custom paths. I do prefer ALL settings, patches, manuals and necessary files to be copied into ONE folder of choice (e.g. D:\VST32\VSTi_Xils-Synthix). Within that, go nuts with subfolders and files.

Will hopefully be able to check the demo next week, looking forward to it.

Hi Dalor,

Actually you CAN choose the install path : All my VSTI, including Xils ones, wich require an additional folder besides of the VST Folder are installed in an Audio Folder of a HD. (ie this is the folder where your presets will be )

While all the VST are in Cubase VST folder on another partition of a dedicated HD (ie this is the folder where your Xils .dll will be )

Hope it helps,

LtZ

biomechanoid · Post by **biomechanoid** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:31 am

Lotuzia wrote:
Hi Bio I wasnt refering to Alchemy's Lfos in this case, but the random you can choose as a parameter attached to Note On ( That I used a lot in Alchemy btw as like I staed it random is ubercool ). So is there a pattern ( like an advanced S&h, or a more or less erratic/complicated pattern ) or is it real random generated on the fly by a math function ?

i'm fairly sure that, like the LFO's, the alchemy note properties are also truly random, generated by a maths function.

Anyway sorry if I made a mistake. On the SYnthix you also smooth the transitions in the random function, control the rate.

yup, you can do that with alchemy too (any modulation can be variably smoothed)

anyway sorry for butting in... just wanted to clarify given you specifically mentioned alchemy, and suggested your chaox LFOs randomness was unique in being mathematically generated.

synthix sounds really cool from what i've heard, and i'm looking forward to checking it out. unfortunately the demo hard crashes logic when instantiated here. is this a known issue? let me know if you need a crash log.

cheers,

col

penguinfromdeep · Post by **penguinfromdeep** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:07 am

Lotuzia wrote: Thanks Mr Penguin ( hope you'll like it !

Yeah, now I just have to wait for the Elicenser code, too bad should've chosen Ilok in the beginning since I own both

Oh well, a few days can't hurt too muh

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:08 am

I just added some info about the Group buy at the Synapse Audio forum inside the "mixed" threads (called "The Pub" there).

After i received the eLicenser code i'll directly start with a commercial bank for Synthix which will also include the presets i have already done with the demo. Like already mentioned i'll have to reprogram those presets from screenshots i have made.

Ingo

auricle · Post by **auricle** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:18 am

Just bought - now waiting for the eLicenser code.

Will the Mac and PC versions be released at the same time?

SYN'X 2.5 Released - Xils-Lab - (Multitimbral Synthex - intro discount-)