Your next guitar?

[susiwong]

Light or heavy doesn't bother me. I don't think I've ever picked a guitar for how comfortable it is, I concentrate more on how it sounds.

It does make a difference.
How are you supposed to play heavy metal on a guitar made out of light wood ?

Rotfl,
susiwong

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lie I said before, my baritone weighs in at 10.5 lbs but it's balanced...the only oncomfortable thing about it is the neck is a little longer and mekes me fell like a kid a gain playing it. I'm not sure what the wood is tbh but I call it my 10lb sledge hammer

[robogone]

How are you supposed to play heavy metal on a guitar made out of light wood ?

Pickups, amps and distortion combination. Sometimes a relatively light guitar is a great choice for heavy fuzz as it gives you a completely different sound to say a Les Paul.

[susiwong]

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How are you supposed to play heavy metal on a guitar made out of light wood ?

Pickups, amps and distortion combination. Sometimes a relatively light guitar is a great choice for heavy fuzz as it gives you a completely different sound to say a Les Paul.

my gospel (or lespel as it were) is gaining momentum...but we still have a lot of work to do.

[hibidy]

The charvel is alder. It has a spank to it I don't get with the others.

The ibbys as mentioned are all basswood. The 3520 is pretty heavy though, I wonder if it's because it's an edge zero instead of the edge pro...

The hardtail with the tight-end bridge is LIGHT!

None of them are uncomfortable except playing the higher frets on my charvel.

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interesting

http://cgi.ebay.com/1980s-Anea-Daion-El ... 1e64bc7714

it's a power xx body that had a kahler installed and the nech changed, also it does not have the stock cavity cover on the rear and the body countour is slightly off ...or at least looks it. The wood for what would be the neckthru but spoiled with a bolt on neck is just like my daion.

I wonder what the real story is behind this, the bolt on neck kills it and unless it's some rare model I have never heard of ( but the neckthru power xx like mine is the flagship) it's not worth 1/3 the asking price.

What makes the guitar great in so many ways has been hacked off

[susiwong]

interesting

http://cgi.ebay.com/1980s-Anea-Daion-El ... 1e64bc7714

it's a power xx body that had a kahler installed and the nech changed, also it does not have the stock cavity cover on the rear and the body countour is slightly off ...or at least looks it. The wood for what would be the neckthru but spoiled with a bolt on neck is just like my daion.

I wonder what the real story is behind this, the bolt on neck kills it and unless it's some rare model I have never heard of ( but the neckthru power xx like mine is the flagship) it's not worth 1/3 the asking price.

What makes the guitar great in so many ways has been hacked off

Wouldn't it be easier to assume the Daion connection is just pulled out of thin air ?
We've been there before, everybody and his dog offered (roughly) that style of guitars back then, and from what I can see it looks pretty stock.
OK, the "Kahler Banjo Conversion Kit®" might have some sentimental value ...
$798.00 looks like a joke, I wouldn't bet more than $79.80 (the s/h value of the PUs) on that rare bird.
Just saying, ymmv,
susiwong

[trimph1]

This is a new way of *paying* for a guitar

http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/2466380885.html

Ok, that is just wrong!

I guess wood does really matter in this case

Only CL could list that!!!

[susiwong]

The charvel is alder. It has a spank to it I don't get with the others.

Like you would expect.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but afaik Charvel were among the first to put a FR on a guitar and they used alder back then, sensible choice.
Most current pop guitar tracks are more distorted than metal guitars in those days.
Ibanez made this "neutral wood" thing popular with the first, limited run of Steve Vais, years later.
Ymmv,
susiwong

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interesting

http://cgi.ebay.com/1980s-Anea-Daion-El ... 1e64bc7714

it's a power xx body that had a kahler installed and the nech changed, also it does not have the stock cavity cover on the rear and the body countour is slightly off ...or at least looks it. The wood for what would be the neckthru but spoiled with a bolt on neck is just like my daion.

I wonder what the real story is behind this, the bolt on neck kills it and unless it's some rare model I have never heard of ( but the neckthru power xx like mine is the flagship) it's not worth 1/3 the asking price.

What makes the guitar great in so many ways has been hacked off

Wouldn't it be easier to assume the Daion connection is just pulled out of thin air ?
We've been there before, everybody and his dog offered (roughly) that style of guitars back then, and from what I can see it looks pretty stock.
OK, the "Kahler Banjo Conversion Kit®" might have some sentimental value ...
$798.00 looks like a joke, I wouldn't bet more than $79.80 (the s/h value of the PUs) on that rare bird.
Just saying, ymmv,
susiwong

no that is a daion body right down to the binding, I have no doubt about that...it's a power xx body but one that may not have been finished by daion. Googling I found this http://www.may-studio-music-lessons.com ... uitar.html which mentions daion. Now what I'm wonering if perhaps when daion split the scene they had stock leftover and perhaps some of that was b-stock which they sold off to companies but hacked off the necks possibly for trademark reasons (and also the serial numbers were on the headstocks). To mill it so it's a bolt on takes more precision than other mods and I would suspect that at bare minimum they used a bridgeport or similar design milling machine leaving me to doubt it was a home done mod.

I agree with you on the price but to be honest though about offering the guy 100 bux

[susiwong]

no that is a daion body right down to the binding, I have no doubt about that...it's a power xx body but one that may not have been finished by daion. Googling I found this http://www.may-studio-music-lessons.com ... uitar.html which mentions daion. Now what I'm wonering if perhaps when daion split the scene they had stock leftover and perhaps some of that was b-stock which they sold off to companies but hacked off the necks possibly for trademark reasons (and also the serial numbers were on the headstocks). To mill it so it's a bolt on takes more precision than other mods and I would suspect that at bare minimum they used a bridgeport or similar design milling machine leaving me to doubt it was a home done mod.

I agree with you on the price but to be honest though about offering the guy 100 bux

Remember the Japanese were kings of the copy back then , I've seen my share or ripped off Ibanezes or Yamahas from those days, most only for the Japanese domestic market.
Some even in-house, e.g. Cimar-made Ibanez copies .
That weird Explorer-style took more than a few clues from the Aria ZZ models, some minor details remind me of Daion, too...
In any case, unless I fell in love with one of these monstrosities (unlikely) when actually playing it, I'd file them under answers to a question nobody would ever dare to ask.
Remember those semi-plastic bodied Gibson Sonex guitars ?
Hopeless try to go even cheaper than the Marauders.
I even once saw a bolt-on Gibson with a plastic US-map shaped body (wanted to buy it, but they had left out Hawaii and Alaska as they wouldn't have fit in the case so I let it go), would have made a nice decoration.
Ymmv,
susiwong

OK, $90 last offer.

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Totally agree on less gain actually being heavier in sound alot of the time. Still won't stop Boss selling them horrific sounding MetalZone and MetalCore junk boxes to bedroom wielding practice 15 watt 1x8 solid state combo amp types that usually can be found wielding a half-decent but my, my fugly looking guitar. A bit like this:




You know susi those ancient egyptian brain extracting devices we both love so much?

Total Brutal sounds in those two videos

Seriously do not understand why anyone would invest in a decent enough guitar or in many of cases guitars but then stick with the garbage that whatever shop 'advised' them to start out with kind of deal. A 15 watt solid-state 1x8 with DSP effects combo and heaviest pedal name that will make you instantly sound like >insert persons fave bands here< Maybe that whole logic is summed up rather well by this track:

Taken from the 2005 Album 'Terror for Sale' released on Scarlet Records. Incase they are not very easy to make out the lyrics are:

Eat my breakfast, drop the kids off
Thats how my daily life starts,On the highway, til' it's payday
I have a meeting with the boss,He has a wicked leg, he has a wicked leg
He likes to kick me in the ass til it turns red, I hate my job, i hate it all
I wanna be a million dollar f**king rockstar, Why!?-Wont you get me a gig before i die...

Will write you a song song, Just as heavy as king kong, While im smoking my bong bong...I wanna be a hunk with a metalguitar, Cause people tell me i could go pretty far, I need some kicks as im Kerry King licks And get the chicks by the bar

Now its lunchtime, cut the barbwire, I'm going to the deli and get myself a wrap, Life is crazy, this job makes me A suicidal freak feeling like crap
Why!?-Wont you get me a gig before i die..

I will write you a song song, Cause i know how to pling plong-Just like playing the ping pong

I'll be getting the chi..Chicks by the bar ,I'll be showing my tri..Tricks on guitar, They'll be blowing me bli..Blind in my car, I'll be throwing the sui..Suit on the yard, I'll be hitting my bo..Boss really hard, I'll be getting a bo..Bodyguard

Eat my breakfast, drop the kids off, Thats how my daily life starts
On the highway, til' it's payday ,I have a meeting with the boss
Why!?-Wont you give me a gig before i die..

I will force you to sing sing, I will give you a ring ring and you give me some bling bling

I wanna be a hunk with a metalguitar, Cause people tell me i could go pretty far, I need some kicks as im Kerry King licks And get the chicks by the bar,
I'll be getting the chi..Chicks by the bar ,I'll be showing my tri..Tricks on guitar, They'll be blowing me bli..Blind in my car, I'll be throwing the sui..Suit on the yard, I'll be hitting my bo..Boss really hard, I'll be getting a bo..Bodyguard

Not that i think at all in any way whatsoever i am some kind of authority on metal or a guru off heavy, modern high-gain sounds. Just my humble honest opinion with stuff i hope backs it up FWIW

ancient egyptian brain extracting devices = BC Rich guitars with the 'Widow' headstock and similar erm 'eye candy' that can sound and play very decent and indeed are used/endorsed by big name players (well they tend to have custom shop built versions that are either not available to buy or many times 10 times more pricey than the consumer models of course), But only as decent as whatever the weakest link in the chain/rig is. Leaves me puzzled and head scratchingly

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susi, we had a USA map Gibson on the wall of one of the stores I worked at but the body was wood, I remember there being something about the marauder I liked as well back in the day...maple neck maybe? (dont feel like googling right now)

But I still think Daion sold off stock with the necks chopped off, if you look close enough you can see it was actually an angled slice. Also the fact that the contour and the jack are both close but loks like 'oops' really makes me believe seconds.

OT for a second, I was just checking the jet city site hoping for word on the iso cab due out feb, march, april, may, june and now retailers here say july 7th. (I also would like to see noise reduction stats) and I saw they had the 20 watt heads with several mods

http://www.jetcityamplification.com/store/jetpacks/

that BEM mod looks very interesting.

meanwhile I'm considering the 1/2 power kit mod from weber for the egnater if it will work with two tubes insted of four. You might to scroll down, but it's only 15usd and easy to do

http://taweber.powweb.com/store/modkits.htm#hilo_pwr

and of course really right after I decide on the iso cab or not comes the strat body from Warmoth...barring unseen heavy expenses of course.

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Dean, when I bought my plexi way back in the early 80s I bought it with the first generation of the heavy metel pedal from boss...horrible, I used one of those 6 band blue MXR eqs inline and it sounded 100 times better...I traded the pedal for a Seymour Duncan Invader