SYN'X 2.5 Released - Xils-Lab - (Multitimbral Synthex - intro discount-)

[Lotuzia]

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I c/p the Synthix separate audio demos clips for those who land on this page without reading the first posts, so that they can have an idea of the overall sound of the little monster

Synthix Pads, Brass, Strings, Fx

Synthix Leads and Arps

SYNTHIX Keys and Synths

SYNTHIX Basse Splits Seq

First Video Tutorial, covering some "advanced", and unique, features of the Synthix : The Everchanging Chords

Its a kind of Loungy very quiet track, but those with a bit of imagination can easily extrapolate on how to adapt these techniques for furious techno tracks as well, or many other genres.( imho )



Thanks for reading.

LtZ

[DF2R]

The deeper I go into this synth, the more I love it. It's just amazing.

[ekkord]

the Synthix elicenser osx32 installer for Version 0.9.3 appears to be an ilok installer when downloaded.

[pdxindy]

I just tested the demo of Synthex.
I like the synth but for me it has has the very special XILS-Lab sound that I know from their other synths and not the Synthex sound.

In the internet I found an audio demo of the Synthex with 50 preset examples.
Here it is:
http://www.synthesizer.at/audio/Synthex_workshop.mp3

I would like to hear such sounds with Synthix.
I hope that the full version will sound like that.

I listened to the synthix audio demos and they sound good but did not stand out to me from other top synths today and even have a kind of sameness across presets that I'm not sure I like. I also am listening on crappy headphones on my laptop. But now I listen to this synthex audio demo and it sounds better. The synthix demos sounded a bit tinny, but I figured it was these crappy phones, but this demo does not sound tinny.

hmmm... only a very first impression...

[pdxindy]

Chaos is not random, but not deterministic

Sorry, that doesn't make sense. Determinism/non-determinism (~caused/uncaused) is a dichotomy; there can be no third category of agency process.

And mathematically chaotic behaviour most definitely belongs in the deterministic category.

Yes, you're right too, my apologize, all the real world is deterministic.
Like Descartes said, if you know all the first conditions of the world, you would be able to know the future. But like Poincarré said, a infinite little difference between two conditions can bring infinite distance after a while. You know, the butterfly story which produces a cyclone.



Best regards
Xavier

I say real life is not deterministic

[xavier]

the Synthix elicenser osx32 installer for Version 0.9.3 appears to be an ilok installer when downloaded.

Hi ekkord,
Thanks for letting me know, I mismatched the files when I uploaded them yesterday.
It's fixed now.

This 0.9.3 version fixes and adds the following :

_ Option (Misc) : "Layer locked when loaded" When check (by default) the multi-layer presets are locked when you launch them (as it was with the previous version). But unchecking this option allows you to keep all the layer enabled. So when you are moving a knob, all the layer will be modified.
_ Alert pop-up opens when you want to modify a locked layer
_ Midi setting panel typo fixed
_ Chorus BBD mode (led ON) : the slop time of the emulation has been increased, reducing a little the noise.
_ GUI polished

for Protools8-9 users the next version will fix the last problem. If you need it right now, drop me a line.

Now, still working on the windows 7 CPU issue.

Best regards
Xavier

[Lotuzia]

The deeper I go into this synth, the more I love it. It's just amazing.

Thanks a lot for the support DF2R.

It means A LOT to us, as our ultimate goal is to design and offer beautiful musical instruments

LtZ

[dalor]

Xavier, the CPU overload issue seems finally fixed with the latest version 0.93 5 notes on patch "KY Perc Organ B LtZ" = 25% (44.1kgz)! Finally I get to check out all presets. Thanks

[Lotuzia]

I just tested the demo of Synthex.
I like the synth but for me it has has the very special XILS-Lab sound that I know from their other synths and not the Synthex sound.

In the internet I found an audio demo of the Synthex with 50 preset examples.
Here it is:
http://www.synthesizer.at/audio/Synthex_workshop.mp3

I would like to hear such sounds with Synthix.
I hope that the full version will sound like that.

I listened to the synthix audio demos and they sound good but did not stand out to me from other top synths today and even have a kind of sameness across presets that I'm not sure I like. I also am listening on crappy headphones on my laptop. But now I listen to this synthex audio demo and it sounds better. The synthix demos sounded a bit tinny, but I figured it was these crappy phones, but this demo does not sound tinny.

hmmm... only a very first impression...

Hi PxIndy,

Yes you can read the detailed answer I made to Gucky a few post after his post.

Our gifted Austrian friend not only did made some nice arpeggio lines etc. He also added on his demo external reverb, external delay, layering of several Synthex, probably compression, maybe EQing, and live tweaking of Synthex parameters, all things that the real Synthex was unable to offer.

Simple reminder : Our audio demo dont use any compressor, any EQuing, any DAW or Synthix automation, and there's just a transparent limiter on the master Bus (1db treshold IIRC ) So they're just trying to showcase the real sound of the Synthix without any "production" enhancements.

Due to its DCO the Synthix have a very precise base sound, wich mimics the character of the original. Like I already said it, when I was in a studio with Paul Wiffen ( original creator of the Synthex presets), a Synthix and a Synthex, sometimes we just could not distinguish the two units.

So that I'd say that if I, or you, had the same talent, and the same delay and reverb ( An HW Lexicon can add a lot to a mix, even and especially when its subtle ), than our Austrian friend, I have no doubts that, we would be able to match the sound of his demos very very closely

Unfortunately, or btw very fortunately, our talents are all very diverse, and therefore demos are different.

I'd suggest you try the Synthix demo, make some nice arpeggiatted percussive lines, and tweak for example, or automate, on the Synthix the GLIDE time, and diverse Glide parameters. You'll see you will be very close of some soundbits of the Austrian demo feel.

LtZ

[xavier]

Xavier, the CPU overload issue seems finally fixed with the latest version 0.93 5 notes on patch "KY Perc Organ B LtZ" = 25% (44.1kgz)! Finally I get to check out all presets. Thanks

Thanks for your feedback
I fixed a "denormalize" issue. I wasn't sure it will fix your CPU problem (I didn't have the time to check it) but I'm glad it does.
I will check it anyway

Best regards
Xavier

[pdxindy]

I just tested the demo of Synthex.
I like the synth but for me it has has the very special XILS-Lab sound that I know from their other synths and not the Synthex sound.

In the internet I found an audio demo of the Synthex with 50 preset examples.
Here it is:
http://www.synthesizer.at/audio/Synthex_workshop.mp3

I would like to hear such sounds with Synthix.
I hope that the full version will sound like that.

I listened to the synthix audio demos and they sound good but did not stand out to me from other top synths today and even have a kind of sameness across presets that I'm not sure I like. I also am listening on crappy headphones on my laptop. But now I listen to this synthex audio demo and it sounds better. The synthix demos sounded a bit tinny, but I figured it was these crappy phones, but this demo does not sound tinny.

hmmm... only a very first impression...

Hi PxIndy,

Yes you can read the detailed answer I made to Gucky a few post after his post.

Our gifted Austrian friend not only did made some nice arpeggio lines etc. He also added on his demo external reverb, external delay, layering of several Synthex, probably compression, maybe EQing, and live tweaking of Synthex parameters, all things that the real Synthex was unable to offer.

Simple reminder : Our audio demo dont use any compressor, any EQuing, any DAW or Synthix automation, and there's just a transparent limiter on the master Bus (1db treshold IIRC ) So they're just trying to showcase the real sound of the Synthix without any "production" enhancements.

Due to its DCO the Synthix have a very precise base sound, wich mimics the character of the original. Like I already said it, when I was in a studio with Paul Wiffen ( original creator of the Synthex presets), a Synthix and a Synthex, sometimes we just could not distinguish the two units.

So that I'd say that if I, or you, had the same talent, and the same delay and reverb ( An HW Lexicon can add a lot to a mix, even and especially when its subtle ), than our Austrian friend, I have no doubts that, we would be able to match the sound of his demos very very closely

Unfortunately, or btw very fortunately, our talents are all very diverse, and therefore demos are different.

I'd suggest you try the Synthix demo, make some nice arpeggiatted percussive lines, and tweak for example, or automate, on the Synthix the GLIDE time, and diverse Glide parameters. You'll see you will be very close of some soundbits of the Austrian demo feel.

LtZ

I see no reason you cannot also make some demos that use automation, compression/eq and external effects... just say when it is so and then you show a synth at its best too... all words can be spoken, but audio influences

cheers

[Sequent]

Personally, I like hearing the raw synth so that I get a feeling for what is possible out of the box. But on the other hand, I see your point and think it might be somewhat useful to hear the synth "in context" as well. Definitely, it's very important that if external stuff was used in the demos that it be noted.

I see no reason you cannot also make some demos that use automation, compression/eq and external effects... just say when it is so and then you show a synth at its best too... all words can be spoken, but audio influences

cheers

[Albert.VST]

I see no reason you cannot also make some demos that use automation, compression/eq and external effects... just say when it is so and then you show a synth at its best too... all words can be spoken, but audio influences

cheers

No, I absolutely do not agree! A product demo should never include external effects or other plugins (unless they come free with the product ). If I buy something based on a product demo I do want it to be able to sound the same as presented in the demo without the need to add (often costly) externals.
If I don't have the talent to sound the same, fair. Arpeggio, sequencer, multiple layers used in a product demo, ok, as I can use that too in a DAW host. But external sound shaping effects, no, never.

Albert

[Sequent]

I had one question regarding the iLok. I didn't see this mentioned earlier and I apologize if I missed it!

If I choose iLok authorization... does it need to be a specific type of iLok? e.g. the newer iLok? Or will the older type of iLok work? The reason I ask is because I have some older style iLoks (on which I have my other Xils-lab items!), but if it needs to be the newer iLok then I'll probably go with the eLicenser.

(In the past I chose iLok because the eLicenser is a little more fragile - in my experience.)

THANKS!

[Lotuzia]

I just tested the demo of Synthex.
I like the synth but for me it has has the very special XILS-Lab sound that I know from their other synths and not the Synthex sound.

In the internet I found an audio demo of the Synthex with 50 preset examples.
Here it is:
http://www.synthesizer.at/audio/Synthex_workshop.mp3

I would like to hear such sounds with Synthix.
I hope that the full version will sound like that.

I listened to the synthix audio demos and they sound good but did not stand out to me from other top synths today and even have a kind of sameness across presets that I'm not sure I like. I also am listening on crappy headphones on my laptop. But now I listen to this synthex audio demo and it sounds better. The synthix demos sounded a bit tinny, but I figured it was these crappy phones, but this demo does not sound tinny.

hmmm... only a very first impression...

Hi PxIndy,

Yes you can read the detailed answer I made to Gucky a few post after his post.

Our gifted Austrian friend not only did made some nice arpeggio lines etc. He also added on his demo external reverb, external delay, layering of several Synthex, probably compression, maybe EQing, and live tweaking of Synthex parameters, all things that the real Synthex was unable to offer.

Simple reminder : Our audio demo dont use any compressor, any EQuing, any DAW or Synthix automation, and there's just a transparent limiter on the master Bus (1db treshold IIRC ) So they're just trying to showcase the real sound of the Synthix without any "production" enhancements.

Due to its DCO the Synthix have a very precise base sound, wich mimics the character of the original. Like I already said it, when I was in a studio with Paul Wiffen ( original creator of the Synthex presets), a Synthix and a Synthex, sometimes we just could not distinguish the two units.

So that I'd say that if I, or you, had the same talent, and the same delay and reverb ( An HW Lexicon can add a lot to a mix, even and especially when its subtle ), than our Austrian friend, I have no doubts that, we would be able to match the sound of his demos very very closely

Unfortunately, or btw very fortunately, our talents are all very diverse, and therefore demos are different.

I'd suggest you try the Synthix demo, make some nice arpeggiatted percussive lines, and tweak for example, or automate, on the Synthix the GLIDE time, and diverse Glide parameters. You'll see you will be very close of some soundbits of the Austrian demo feel.

LtZ

I see no reason you cannot also make some demos that use automation, compression/eq and external effects... just say when it is so and then you show a synth at its best too... all words can be spoken, but audio influences

cheers

Its ok some people expressed here, and in GS, that these were the best audio demos for a VSTI they have heard sofar, wich really made my day as you can imagine, but ..... of course I'm aware that evenmore people will have a different feel.

I personaly dislike when I hear an audio demo and the only thing I'm interested in is "what compressor did he used" But its only a choice and a matter of philosophy.

But like I said you cant please everybody with a GUI, a synth, or ... audio demos aso.

There are some more multi track/minisong audio demos on Xils-Site wich are more produced ( not mine though wich are more in the draft department atm ). We'll add some more in the future ( Ive heard some new ones that I really like )

Then the best way to judge the synth is very probably to launch the donglelessdemo, add the reverb of your choice, compress what you think need to be compressed et voilà. Like I said if you play the same than our talented Austrian friend, use similar quality FX and tweak the right parameter at the right time you should be very close soundwise of its sounds.

Wich was the part of your question I really wanted to try to answer in a proper way (ie the emulation side) : Yes the Synthix is very very close of the Synthex. A lot of real Synthex owners, or people knowing it very well, have already talked about this. So if its a major concern for you, or other potential users, I felt that these informations could be usefull.

LtZ