ImpOSCar2 Is Actually Here (Mac And PC), No Really, It Is

[phraggle]

Anyone else experiencing arp sync issues in Logic?

[Echoes in the Attic]

The controller really is a thing a beauty! I wonder if Synth-Projects was involved in the production? They made imposcar controllers as well

Obviously not - and they don't seem to be too happy about it:
http://www.synth-project.de/Welcome.html

The reaction is a bit weird though? On the very same page just below the news item with the morph it says "That's the reason why i build special Hardware Controllers. BUT It's only a hobby. I don't wanna make money with it !"

So, either he didn't want to do it or he wasn't able to switch from hobbyist to entrepreneur. It's one thing to make a one-off (as nice as it was) and quite another to produce a large quantity, market, sell and support them.

We'll see how it pans out for Touch. I took a chance and ordered one this afternoon, so I'll know soon enough what kind of a product it is. I just couldn't resist...

I'm not sure he's necessarily unhappy about it. He's said many times that he doesn't want to make these controllers for sale. So if someone else comes along and does it, I doubt he could find a reason to be unhappy about it. I'm not sure why he posted that quote with the cheeky morph of his imposcar controller turning into the touch digital one. I mean they are both modelled after the same synth of course they are the same layout... I would guess he's just having a bit of fun. How could he be upset, so many people have expressed interest in buying something like this, why shouldn't a company make these controllers.

[1-2-Many]

It appears clear to me that he's taking a stab at the "our own ideas" bit of their ad blurb, since he did it first

[bobbybland]

For those of you that paid with paypal,hows this work? I've been trying for two days,but either my bank won't mess with french banks,the browser redirects me.. arrghh.. this is a mess,eventually I was sent an email,saying I can pay to ohmforce.com,but I wanted to check here first..

Any tips? lol

[RandomWave]

t appears clear to me that he's taking a stab at the "our own ideas" bit of their ad blurb, since he did it first

Actually, these types of controllers have been around for a while in one form or another:

http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2006/10 ... ammer.html

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1996_ar ... amers.html

Roland had a bunch in their "Programmer" line for the Super Jupiter, D-50, etc. in the 80s!

http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/pgs.php

Anyone remember the Knobby and Slidemate?
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/cont_product.html

Either way, I think the work that Synth-Projects does is fantastic. True works of art and a labor of love. Likewise, I'm glad to see these types of dedicated controllers being produced for the market by Touch. I wish them much success as well!

[mcnoone]

For those of you that paid with paypal,hows this work? I've been trying for two days,but either my bank won't mess with french banks,the browser redirects me.. arrghh.. this is a mess,eventually I was sent an email,saying I can pay to ohmforce.com,but I wanted to check here first..

Any tips? lol

You must send an email here:
chris@gforcesoftware.com
Stating you would like to purchase impOSCar2 using the Paypal option.
If your upgrading from impOSCar1 then you should include your account, email and code information. Asking for an upgrade.
They will send you a form to use to send the funds from paypal.
(note:This is for mac only)

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it appears clear to me that he's taking a stab at the "our own ideas" bit of their ad blurb, since he did it first

Actually, these types of controllers have been around for a while in one form or another:

http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2006/10 ... ammer.html

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1996_ar ... amers.html

Roland had a bunch in their "Programmer" line for the Super Jupiter, D-50, etc. in the 80s!

http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/pgs.php

Anyone remember the Knobby and Slidemate?
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/cont_product.html

Either way, I think the work that Synth-Projects does is fantastic. True works of art and a labor of love. Likewise, I'm glad to see these types of dedicated controllers being produced for the market by Touch. I wish them much success as well!

Right-Sure, I see where you're going. Most of those you reference are specialized controllers targeted at specific Hardware synths. Synth-Projects makes Hardware controllers for specific Software synths. He "did it first" as in the First to think of doing a specialized ImpOscar controller and first to make one. Touch coming in later and saying, in reference to their latest Imposcar controller release, "...and now we can manufacture our own ideas into products then there will be no stopping us." might have rubbed him a little wrong.

No Biggie - all of it...just saying I see where he's coming from, and it's likely EVERYONE thinks it's great that Touch is going to mass produce this thing

[dswtan]

Just upgraded today and wanted to say: this thing sounds stunning. Amazing job, thank you! Enjoy your hols!

Sorry for the simple +1, but *+1*! Fantastic! Really beautiful sound! Happy here. Worth the amazing wait. Thought it would never come!

[fearoftigers]

For Mac only at first? I am not going to purchase it for PC when it's out, out of principle. Normally I don't mind if something is Mac-only at first (I'm getting Aalto very soon) but we have been waiting for this for ages and the best they can do is Mac-only?

Seriously, I don't know why I'm so pissed off at this!

I agree! As a Windows user I think it's disgraceful!!

Who developed this thing? He should be dealt with accordingly!!

Oh, erm, it was me

Actually it's just how things came together, we'd set a date (the Touch Digital guys have invested a lot of money and really needed it released) and then some beta testers finally woke up and told us about some small problems, the mac ones were reported first and were easier to sort out.

Ironic since most of the time the windows version has been done first.

Shame on you When do we get a windows version John? Or better still you could sub me for a mac lol.
Really hope there's a windows version soon

Rob

Hey guys, sounds great, one of the best v-analog synths i've heard - is there a 64-bit version coming for Mac?

[Foxis]

So, the guy at synth-project.de has a statement up regarding the Touch controller:
http://www.synth-project.de/Statement.html

Mr. Spiers asked me, if i be able to build a controller for Gforce. I answered, yes, and it would be a good idea to build a controller for the coming impOScar 2, so they can presents it very well.
Mr. Spiers promised me, that he puts some credits on his site, when the impOSCar 2 released.
The controller attained to Gforce on April 2010.

And now, i see a new dedicated controller from TDC but no words about my work and my idea.
Only that Mr. Dave Spiers bought more than one from TDC.
I hoped that Mr. Spiers shows my controller in the presentation videos of the impOSCar 2.
Because it was a very hard work and i spent my holidays for that. AND i wanted no money for my work !

I'm very happy, that a company now build controllers. Thats what i want from the beginning.
I'm very happy for all the peoples who can get now their own Controller.

BUT it's the way, they published it. It's really weak. Where is the problem to make some credits.

That's his side of it, and if it how it went down then I surely sympathize with him. I ordered a Touch controller yesterday, and while I'm looking forward to receiving it this kind of gives it somewhat of a bade taste...

[BFunKu]

Where's the PC version?

[Timfonie]

It seems quite simple and clear actually. The only thing Mario from synth-project.de would have seen, is an honourful mentioning of him being the first to conceive and create a dedicated ImpOSCar2 controller.

[Synth-Project]

Please stop the discussion here about the controllers ! I think it's enough, and it makes no sense right here !

I've got a mail from Mr. Spiers and he told me that there comes a story about the evolution of the controllers.
And so everything is allright, except the words "our own ideas" from TDC.

And now lets talk about the brilliant new impOSCar 2 VST Instrument !

All the Best

Synth-Project

[Foxis]

Regarding the controller stuff: Maybe I was silly but I got in touch with all parties and it all seems to be a classic case of miscommunication or lack thereof. It is not on my radar any longer.

But Mario is right - the discussion should focus on the instrument and the benefit of a controller. I had some time to play with imp2 yesterday and it really does sound awesome. It is quite effortless to get nice sounding results from it with the GUI, so I imagine once I get the controller I will be in creative heaven.

The only thing that is a bit scary is the very possible risk of me not using anything else than imp2 for the near future. Why bother with a synth *without* a dedicated controller? I really do hope this is the future and that other successful synths get controllers - the economics of scale should then make them a bit more affordable.

One interesting aspect of the controller-vst development is that software developers suddenly have even more responsibility to ensure the synths live on. Also, with future updates they will have to take the controller into account in some way I would assume. So, suddenly one of the benefits of software is no longer there - you cannot just add another knob because you feel like it. It will suddenly have effects in the "real world".

Should be interesting to see where all this leads. We live in exciting times!

[RandomWave]

Right-Sure, I see where you're going. Most of those you reference are specialized controllers targeted at specific Hardware synths.

That would of had to be the case if it was done first in the 80s! There were no vsts then.

Please stop the discussion here about the controllers ! I think it's enough, and it makes no sense right here !

Sorry mate, had no idea the situation was...well anyway. I do think we are free to discuss the Touch controller here as it directly relates to imposcar 2. That's not fair to the rest of us.

Wasn't it you who created the controversy to begin with by what you posted publicly on your own site? If you dont want your offerings or products associated with this discussion, thats fine. I'll respect that.

Likewise though, dont comment on it then publicly and can you please take down the public statements and video jab then (which I had no idea was up on your site when I brought this up). You cant publish information regarding your position on something publicly for all to see, read and form opinion, then expect no one to do the same.

Touch's actual quote in full context is:

"The impOSCar 2 Controller (IMP2C) is our first product and we are very proud of what we have been able to achieve with this instrument. We have a lot of new and innovative ideas that we fully intend to develop in the short to medium term and believe that our company will earn a reputation of being the best at what we do. This ethos is something we have always strived to achieve and now we can manufacture our own ideas into products then there will be no stopping us."

They dont say the imposcar controller was their own idea here exclusively, do they? I believe they are speaking in general terms of ideas and innovations that go into their product development and what there company goal is.