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dlevel · Post by **dlevel** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:03 pm

Hello,

I listen to the tracks and i see that most people go verse 8 bars/hook 8 bars/ verse 8 bars/ some 4 bars bridges... So can someone tell me what would be the best recipe for a track so the listener will not be bored etc etc? i know that there is no "fix" recipe for music but i would like to hear in theory whats the best.

The music types i m interested is Dance/House, POP and Hip Hop

thank you.

jdt · Post by **jdt** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:45 pm

Although there are certain genres that seem to stick more rigidly with generally accepted song layout formulas, I think there are really no "rules" set in stone for music composition.

People who are extremely devoted to composing within their choosen genre can at times take it to a level near insanity.

I remember quite a few years ago, I composed an extended, spacey soundbed and titled it "trance". I uploaded it to one of MY groups on the now defunct Collab and one guy was like... infuriated.

"That's NOT TRANCE MAN!!", he said. To which I replied, "No but if you listen to it long enough, it might put you in one". Needless to say he was not amused.

Music is a creative expression of the composer, try to follow too many rules and it is no longer ART, it's repetition of a formula (my opinion, of course).

Strictly following any beat/progression/melody/harmony to such extremes would make the music world rather boring. I can't listen to many cookie-cutter, genre purist tracks in a row, but that's just me.

dlevel · Post by **dlevel** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:37 am

Yes i was waiting for an answer like this, and i m with you, i believe the same, many extraordinary music made without any rules and maybe with some "mistakes"... but i would like someone to tell me if he knows the "rules" that many producers use just to see if i get it right, and try it with this "rules" and see the result.

And when i mean rules i mean in bars ( 8 verse/8 hook/4 bridge/8 verse/8 hook etc etc )

thank you.

tapper mike · Post by **tapper mike** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:13 pm

They vary however here is a great starting point.
http://www.amazon.com/Arranging-Techniq ... 082561130X

Form is what you want/need to know more about.

It's not something you learn in a day with one page of knowledge. Because there is no one size fits all. Writing form is something you have to practice.
You also have to develop things like Hooks along the way.

As well berklee has some great material on songwriting. The big thing to remember is, you are writing a story even if it is an instrumental. In any good story things build to a climax.

verse/hook/bridge etc "rules"