Bit of a newb here so hopefully this is the proper forum for this question:
I'm looking to build a cheap, highly portable VST host using Brainspawn Forte and an Asus ET2400 (i5-650 3.2GHz, 4GB DDR3)series touchscreen PC. The concerns I have thus far with this idea are:
1.) I would have to use a USB-MIDI converter to get into/out of the Asus and I'm not sure whether this would strictly meet the 'Windows-compatible MIDI interface' req't for Forte
2.)Since the Asus is an all-in-one PC I would also have to use it's internal soundcard and, again, I'm not sure it would meet the ASIO compatibility requirement for Forte (particularly under Windows 7 Premium)
Any comments or things I should be concerned about w/ this approach
thanks!
PC-based VST host using touchscreen PC
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- KVRer
- 12 posts since 5 Sep, 2007
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
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- KVRAF
- 6323 posts since 30 Dec, 2004 from London uk
Id question the touchscreen aspect, its a compromise and not really suited for DAW use. Youll end up with arm ache and frustration.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 12 posts since 5 Sep, 2007
Is an all-in-one PC and the only expansion capabilities it has is more DRAM......Kaine wrote:USB soundcard with midi port?
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 12 posts since 5 Sep, 2007
I should probably add that the main reason I'd like to use a touchscreen PC is that I'm an old analog synth guy and I find it really tiresome to tweak analog synth VST's w/ a mouse. It feels like programming a Minimoog w/ chopsticks. Also, the Asus has a keyb/mouse so I can still do the more text-oriented entry tasks as well. Probably wouldn't take the keyb/mouse out for live gigs tho....UltraJv wrote:Id question the touchscreen aspect, its a compromise and not really suited for DAW use. Youll end up with arm ache and frustration.
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- KVRist
- 393 posts since 11 May, 2005 from France
hello,
Have you test Usine from http://www.sensomusic.com/usine/..?
this host has been developed specifically for touch screen ( and with multi touch support on win 7) and offer many possibility to create your own setup.Creating knobs & fader, resizing them and more..
There is a free version to test and i'm here to help if needed or if you have any questions.
Have you test Usine from http://www.sensomusic.com/usine/..?
this host has been developed specifically for touch screen ( and with multi touch support on win 7) and offer many possibility to create your own setup.Creating knobs & fader, resizing them and more..
There is a free version to test and i'm here to help if needed or if you have any questions.
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Angel Powerlord Angel Powerlord https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=177595 - KVRist
- 112 posts since 2 Apr, 2008
Hey, it doesn't have USB ports?? Come on!scifizydeco wrote:Is an all-in-one PC and the only expansion capabilities it has is more DRAM......Kaine wrote:USB soundcard with midi port?
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Angel Powerlord Angel Powerlord https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=177595
- KVRist
- 112 posts since 2 Apr, 2008
I'm using Forte since 7 years now with my band for live gigs. Best solution I found so far. I was thinking about a touchpad, too. But only for programming of the sounds, and this could be were fiddly. During gigs, I don't look or touch my laptop, everything is remotley controlled from my USB Edirol PCR-300 MIDI controller keyboard. Sliders for sound and volume variations, knobs for switching sounds ("scenes" in Forte). Think of Forte and laptop as a rack full of synths and samplers standing in the corner of the stage, controlled by your master keyboard.scifizydeco wrote:Bit of a newb here so hopefully this is the proper forum for this question:
I'm looking to build a cheap, highly portable VST host using Brainspawn Forte and an Asus ET2400 (i5-650 3.2GHz, 4GB DDR3)series touchscreen PC.
Of course, as things and systems get complicated, there will be some trouble sooner or later, be it Forte or Usine, be it PC or MAC, be it Software or Hardware. It takes time to learn and prepare, to test again and again, keep that in mind.
Regards,
Angel
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
Having attempted a touchscreen windows based rig before I'm prone to agree. Capacitive touch screens are what you want for touch screen use in live performance situations but with the exception of phones and pad's they are very expensive in comparison with the resitive touch ones you see widely available currently on the larger screens.UltraJv wrote:Id question the touchscreen aspect, its a compromise and not really suited for DAW use. Youll end up with arm ache and frustration.
It's running standard windows and has 5 USB ports (going off the spec page) so you should be able to plug in an external interface without issue.scifizydeco wrote:Is an all-in-one PC and the only expansion capabilities it has is more DRAM......Kaine wrote:USB soundcard with midi port?
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 12 posts since 5 Sep, 2007
Yeah that's pretty much how I'd intended to use it: Touchscreen for synth programming and for scene/setlist display only in live situations....Angel Powerlord wrote:I'm using Forte since 7 years now with my band for live gigs. Best solution I found so far. I was thinking about a touchpad, too. But only for programming of the sounds, and this could be were fiddly. During gigs, I don't look or touch my laptop, everything is remotley controlled from my USB Edirol PCR-300 MIDI controller keyboard. Sliders for sound and volume variations, knobs for switching sounds ("scenes" in Forte). Think of Forte and laptop as a rack full of synths and samplers standing in the corner of the stage, controlled by your master keyboard.scifizydeco wrote:Bit of a newb here so hopefully this is the proper forum for this question:
I'm looking to build a cheap, highly portable VST host using Brainspawn Forte and an Asus ET2400 (i5-650 3.2GHz, 4GB DDR3)series touchscreen PC.
Of course, as things and systems get complicated, there will be some trouble sooner or later, be it Forte or Usine, be it PC or MAC, be it Software or Hardware. It takes time to learn and prepare, to test again and again, keep that in mind.
Regards,
Angel
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 12 posts since 5 Sep, 2007
My misunderstanding - I got thrown with the 'soundcard' reference - you could of course use any USB Audio Interface w/ MIDI.......Kaine wrote:Having attempted a touchscreen windows based rig before I'm prone to agree. Capacitive touch screens are what you want for touch screen use in live performance situations but with the exception of phones and pad's they are very expensive in comparison with the resitive touch ones you see widely available currently on the larger screens.UltraJv wrote:Id question the touchscreen aspect, its a compromise and not really suited for DAW use. Youll end up with arm ache and frustration.
It's running standard windows and has 5 USB ports (going off the spec page) so you should be able to plug in an external interface without issue.scifizydeco wrote:Is an all-in-one PC and the only expansion capabilities it has is more DRAM......Kaine wrote:USB soundcard with midi port?
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David Carpenter Wind Core David Carpenter Wind Core https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=196097
- KVRist
- 223 posts since 17 Dec, 2008 from Boulder CO
I know this thread is a bit old but I use an elo touch screen 15 inch win 7 rig with forte and it rocks. 2u rackmount pc with amd 6 core 3.4 ghz 16 gigs ram ssds and it blows away any 2u module out there. Low latency steiberg mr816 fire wire interface provides 8in 8out plus digital ins and outs cleanest sounding interface I have tried.
I can run several low power vsti's simultaneously about 512 polyphony medium power vsti's about 256 polyphony and high power vsti's 64 to 128 polyphony damn you diva.
When running digital out there is zero hiss no matter what which is great. I would recommend the Yamaha MO series for controlling brainspawn forte. It has mackie control that works seamlessly with forte. 8 part mute on offs and individual channel vol control from sliders.
By using this function 8 parts can be loaded and instantly called up via the part mute un mute buttons. This can provide enough instrument parts to make through an entire song easy. Then preset switching between songs is quick with ssd's even kontakt and superior drummer load quickly sometimes instantly.
Forte can easily be controlled with little or no mouse or touch control. The touch screen eliminates the need for a mouse and keyboard this rig all fits inside of a 6u skb rack monitor as well. One drawback is weight around 45 lbs.
However the weight helps keep it upright and solid when using the touch screen it stands about 28 to 30 inches high which is easily reached when sitting down. I usually just sit it in front of my keyboard.
I can run several low power vsti's simultaneously about 512 polyphony medium power vsti's about 256 polyphony and high power vsti's 64 to 128 polyphony damn you diva.
When running digital out there is zero hiss no matter what which is great. I would recommend the Yamaha MO series for controlling brainspawn forte. It has mackie control that works seamlessly with forte. 8 part mute on offs and individual channel vol control from sliders.
By using this function 8 parts can be loaded and instantly called up via the part mute un mute buttons. This can provide enough instrument parts to make through an entire song easy. Then preset switching between songs is quick with ssd's even kontakt and superior drummer load quickly sometimes instantly.
Forte can easily be controlled with little or no mouse or touch control. The touch screen eliminates the need for a mouse and keyboard this rig all fits inside of a 6u skb rack monitor as well. One drawback is weight around 45 lbs.
However the weight helps keep it upright and solid when using the touch screen it stands about 28 to 30 inches high which is easily reached when sitting down. I usually just sit it in front of my keyboard.
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