SAW Studio 5 released...

[Teksonik]

i have never used saw studio myself,so i dont know much about it

But you're gonna have your say anyway.

One does not have to own the software to comment that it's butt ugly no matter what horrible Windows 3.1 skin that's available is used and that it's comically overpriced.....

But seriously if SAW is what you're looking for and you've got a couple thousand dollars laying around then go for it.....to each his own.....

[Hink]

if you want midi it's even more...what does it do that makes it worth that much compared to say Nuendo or Sequoia?

[ZenPunkHippy]

Remote control over the network (TCP/IP) would be very advanced 10 - 15 years ago. Today, not so much.

The problem is a the 1990's price in 2011 ...

No comment on the GUI

Peace,
Andy.

[teomi]

Alright, I'll do a screencast when time permits.

Do answer some of the questions here.

First, I'm not a flamer, I use lots of tools and my type of work is versatile. I will never use Saw Studio for music production. It never claimed it is the best tool for that. Having said that, I would not use Pro tools for music production either (ok maybe it is a small flame war right there).

And no, Saw is definitely not the first choice of film and tv professionals. Because of the "if you can't beat them join them" scenario.

I know many (and I mean many) top producers that wished they could use SAW in their every day job but cannot.

I don't want to get into comparisons between DAWs because it is kind of pointless. But here's a few thoughts:

SAW is the only tool that effectively batch processes regions with auto naming scheme and processing. It's also the fastest suite to edit and perform very elaborate editing procedures.

It's also offering a totally different approach to automation which is a lot more manageable then sublanes.

Yest, it's also the only DAW without a visible grid and also does not rely on menu items and sub menus.

It's also the fastest to load, fastest to render and extremely stable. And I work with at least 3 DAWs constantly every day...

About the price. Last time I paid was when I purchased it in 2000..since then every update was free...and we're talking 11 years a 5 solid versions.

Do some math and see how much you paid your other DAWs with 10 years' worth of upgrades

When I say that SAW is not intended for modern music production I mean that it isn't geared for electronic music creation and VI use, although it does have a sequencer add-on. I do not and do not recommend using it for that.

Lastly, I really don't know if I would purchase the software today..I can't answer that question. But given the fact that I know what SAW is good for and what it is best at (recording/editing/missing/mastering) and having the luxury to compare results, I see a great advantage.

When I'm in music production mode, however, it is basically a stemming tool where all my digital audio stream runs through it's mixer and renders stems in realtime. The mixing engine in SAW is just more efficient and more robust. And again - for traditional mixing, not "compositional" mixing. This is why within a music production context it works side by side to Cubase.



Eitan

[Hink]

I think the layer tracks are outdated as well, you can only comp 8 tracks at once.

However I think this is better suited for those using it as a live mixer and who want to record the show with every channel. It has an interesting feature of being able to control lighting, I have no idea if that is dmx or how in depth it goes though

[skipkent]

I think the point about upgrades is well made and helps to put at least the $1200 SAW Light pricing more in perspective.

Mr. Lentini's 'Good Faith Agreement' is pretty unique as well, and while his pool of buyers is probably very small compared to most other DAWs, the higher price means he doesn't need as many for his project to be profitable. You can say they're stupid or being fleeced or whatever, but a perusal of his message boards doesn't support that. They seem to be very loyal and are putting the software to work in some very interesting and sophisticated ways.

I think the profound lack of "makin' beats" appeal is what generates the most derision from KVR.

[Hink]

I think the profound lack of "makin' beats" appeal is what generates the most derision from KVR.

that is an absurd and very wrong (IMO) generalization

[teomi]

It's very simple, guys.
SAW is just not designed to be a music production suite. It is a "hard Disk recorder" that happens to have a unique and still to this day, extremely thorough and fast editing workflow.

Eitan

[trimph1]

It has a sale price of $2,000...

The GUI is very 1990's by the looks of it..as if that is an issue.

It has free updates...like FL.

And it seems that a few people like it's workflow....

I say.....

Meh.

[psylevation]

Add some wood panels and I'm in!!!

Seriously though... wood panels!

No seriously, disregard my comment... I just thought it needed wood panels... I could be right, I could be wrong

[Hink]

It's very simple, guys.
SAW is just not designed to be a music production suite. It is a "hard Disk recorder" that happens to have a unique and still to this day, extremely thorough and fast editing workflow.

Eitan

forgive me, I missed it and do not want to look back through the brochure...is it 64bit?

[teomi]

No. It's not.

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[ghettosynth]

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[Bronto Scorpio]

No. It's not.

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32?

[Hink]

No. It's not.

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that's rather odd