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evo2slo · Post by **evo2slo** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:56 pm

bzur wrote:@evo2slo: are we midi-synced???

Just checked my settings and noticed my external and internal clock synchronizations are misaligned from their subliminal clock synchronization. Perhaps you are having the same issue resulting in a forum sync anomaly. Troubleshooting in progress...

GMoneh wrote:One quick question about the rule that only free effects can be used. Are the plugins included in magazines like Computer Music considered free? The limited versions that are made available monthly in the DVD are advertised as "free software", and we're certainly not paying for the software license, but one could argue that in order to have them you have to buy the magazine, so... are those allowed or not?

My understanding is that all plugins used aside from host eq must be accessible to all. So magazine plugins would not be allowed unless there is a legal download link available.

IrionDaRonin · Post by **IrionDaRonin** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:58 pm

I was reading all your posts, i'm not avoiding them, but again, wait for V'ger. He will solve all your important doubts.

But what i can say is this next.

GMoneh wrote:One quick question about the rule that only free effects can be used. Are the plugins included in magazines like Computer Music considered free? The limited versions that are made available monthly in the DVD are advertised as "free software", and we're certainly not paying for the software license, but one could argue that in order to have them you have to buy the magazine, so... are those allowed or not?

Only free effects. No Computer Music effects. They are not free or available for all people.

As Evo2slo said.

-Just your main host (with the built-in EQ which is Ok)
-The synth of this OSC month, which is Z3ta+ and Z3ta 2.
-Free effects which you can find over the net and KVR. Always that those doesn't change drastically the nature of the sound. So no distortion, Chorus, Flangers, Phasers, Vocoders, Ring Modulators, Comb-Filters. (Anyway Z3ta has some of this kind of modulators built-in which you can use of course)
-No samples, no guitars, no voices nor celtic bagpipes. But you can bounce/freeze/render the synth into samples or loops if you need it for saving CPU.
This means that you can't change that sample later (change the note, or make strange tricks) in the audio track channel. This means the loop must sound the same exact as if you were running the synth in real time.

The deal is just to show what is capable to do the synth, cleverly and genuinely.

Free effects like:
-Compressors
-Reverbs
-Normal Filters (LP,HP, BP, BR)
-Delays
-TranceGaters
-Arpeggiators or Midi Tools
-External EQ
-Stereo Tools
-Automations of synth and the effects are allowed too
-And some others.

The track must be mixed and masterized in your host.

Have a good day.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:09 pm

Not having read all this thread, could you select a free synth 'early' for the next
OSC, so those without z3ta can get going? Those entering this month,
could work on the next months submissions when experiencing burnout,
or just needing a change of pace.

Cheers

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:15 am

This was the practice before but discontinued as more fair if everyone has the exact same time for a project. For example, some might only have time to do one comp at a time whereas others might jump straight to a coming OSC and so have that much more time and effort on their entries. Even Irion and myself who knew what was coming this time haven't started using Z3ta yet with this in mind.

But check out the monthly competitions in the Music Cafe section here, might be an option for a parallel project?

Archon1024 wrote:Since any version is legal to use... does that mean that both versions are legal to use in the same track? Or does it have to be either 100% Z3TA+ or 100% Z3TA+ 2?.

Hm, didn't anticipate that one, but since they won't be radically different and old version presets work in the new I guess this is fine. Let's even include the Virus mod why not..

(will update the OP to reflect this)

Bert Bert Bert wrote:So would it be ok, If I use the Demo Version of Z3ta, render the Song several times, when its finished. And cut it together so that there are no more dropouts?

Yes as long as making a song and publishing that here using the demo is not conflicting with the End User License Agreement (EULA). I don't have the demo installed atm, so can someone check that and report back pls?

IrionDaRonin wrote:But wait for the boss V'ger reply.

Stop calling me boss

The normal O exalted one! will do just fine..

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:28 am

But big news! Cakewalk has generously donated some nice prizes that should put some more nerve in the competition. Thanks to Brian and Tara at Cakewalk for the support.

So these are the 5 new additions to the prize pool:

Cakewalk :
1 X Sonar X1 + Free choice of one license for either Z3ta+ 2, Dimension Pro or Rapture
4 X Free choice of one license for either Z3ta+ 2, Dimension Pro or Rapture

satYatunes · Post by **satYatunes** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:36 am

Nevermind.. saw your post just after posting mine...

IrionDaRonin · Post by **IrionDaRonin** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:30 am

V'ger wrote:But big news! Cakewalk has generously donated some nice prizes that should put some more nerve in the competition. Thanks to Brian and Tara at Cakewalk for the support.

So these are the 5 new additions to the prize pool:

Cakewalk :
1 X Sonar X1 + Free choice of one license for either Z3ta+ 2, Dimension Pro or Rapture
4 X Free choice of one license for either Z3ta+ 2, Dimension Pro or Rapture

Wow, that's very generous by Cakewalk, thanks Brian and Tara.
People will get mad for winning

@V'ger
Ok boss, i'm not going to call you boss anymore, sorry boss.

I hope to see a proper track this month from you, O exalted one!

Have a good day

satYatunes · Post by **satYatunes** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:44 am

awesome.. boss has brought some more goodies for the prize..

ok.. lets play another fun game... how many tracks do you think we will have this month?
Predict only once in your post only one number. e.g. I predict

40

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:37 am

V'ger wrote:This was the practice before but discontinued as more fair if everyone has the exact same time for a project. For example, some might only have time to do one comp at a time whereas others might jump straight to a coming OSC and so have that much more time and effort on their entries. Even Irion and myself who knew what was coming this time haven't started using Z3ta yet with this in mind.

Its likely easier for z3ta owners to manage spare time over the long period of 2 OSCs,
than it is for people used to using free instruments,
to go out and purchase a copy of z3ta. You changed the competition. You can make
allowances that will make people without a pile of cash for a new synth purchase,
very happy. A poll may be in order.

Cheers

Doc Jon · Post by **Doc Jon** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:05 am

Wow!!! That is one amazing selection of prizes!!!

I would anticipate a new record number of entries this month, I'll guess 36

Well done to the OSC team for negotiating such a good deal from Cakewalk

All hail V'ger!
Irion for President!

Jon

MajorBloodnok · Post by **MajorBloodnok** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:49 am

Is there a prize for guessing correctly how many entires there will be?

MajorBloodnok

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:09 pm

glokraw wrote:Its likely easier for z3ta owners to manage spare time over the long period of 2 OSCs,
than it is for people used to using free instruments,
to go out and purchase a copy of z3ta. You changed the competition. You can make
allowances that will make people without a pile of cash for a new synth purchase,
very happy.

Not sure i get your point here, can u elaborate pls?

Archon1024 · Post by **Archon1024** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:43 pm

I'm going to guess 25 entries.

MajorBloodnok · Post by **MajorBloodnok** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:33 pm

V'ger wrote:
glokraw wrote:Its likely easier for z3ta owners to manage spare time over the long period of 2 OSCs,
than it is for people used to using free instruments,
to go out and purchase a copy of z3ta. You changed the competition. You can make
allowances that will make people without a pile of cash for a new synth purchase,
very happy.
Not sure i get your point here, can u elaborate pls?

Not sure either ... but there is an argument that those who already own Z3ta+ are very likely to have played about with and to at least be familiar with it, whereas what normally happens in the OSC is that pretty much everyone is introduced to a new synth that they are unfamiliar with and therefore everyone has to learn it, as well as trying to get a decent production out of it in the 30 days or so each OSC takes (in my case this is ancient history of course).

Perhaps that is the thrust of glokraw's post.

By the way, I had a thought that in future (or even this time) when a non-free synth is the subject of the OSC that the rest of us that aren't willing or can't pay for it should be able to submit a track using a free-synth of our own choice which we may well be similarly familiar with (following OSC rules of course) just to create a little freeware/payware competition!

I'll shut up now.

MajorBloodnok

PurpleCatfishBettie · Post by **PurpleCatfishBettie** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:17 pm

I agree with MajorBloodnok; except that it doesn't even have to be a 'free synth of choice,' but can be a pre-determined 'alternate free synth.'

Actually, 'synth of choice' is a good idea.

The bottom line is; simply shutting out all of the freeware users is kind of a buzzkill.

Having said that, I'm looking forward to hearing some great Z3ta+ tracks from you 'guys'...

One-Synth-Challenge 31: Z3ta+ - Submissions and gossip