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Absolutely unbelievable, off to buy it now.

Tim
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Just bought it.

Hey is the license good for 2 computers instead of just one?

Tim
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Artgiver wrote:Just bought it.

Hey is the license good for 2 computers instead of just one?

Tim
Yes, Nusofting license doesn't care how many computers you have,
just please don't use your plugins on someone else PC or Mac, <wink>

Thanks Tim,

cheers,

Luigi
Last edited by liqih on Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:52 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Sure Luigi,
can't wait until Melodonia goes 64-bit.
You out did yourself on that one ..well.. on Entity too :).

Oh, and no need to worry, your "secret weapon" (or rather my secret weapon) is safe with me :wink:.

Tim
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Thanks again, well Entity is much of Michael Olsen work too, <grin>

BTW the drums presets are not in the installer yet, get them here
http://dashsignature.com/entity/entity_ ... resets.zip
simply extract the files where the other *.entpreset are

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..sorry bout that Michael :oops:.

10-4 on the drum presets.
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Im surprised this synth isnt getting more response :shock: Luckily I had read the thread before I tried the demo so knew about the hard to see editing tab. I know this is a crowded market and I also have many other synths, but having tried out the demo twice I thought it was a no brainer buy (its currently $48 ).

Incase anybody missed it this semi modular synth has a variety of oscillators including physical modelled, and is actually pretty easy to edit, everythings on one screen with only a little scrolling needed. This is the best thing Nusofting have done so far IMO. Im glad they finally developed something really versatile, I had found their other instruments good at what they did but too specific and niche for me.

I know the interface looks basic at present (though it will be updated), and the presets are old school (which I personally prefer), but is there any particular reason this seems to be getting over looked?

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Reminds me of MicroMono! (BTW, there is no link to download that great old synth from your site, even though the Free Plugins page says there is.)
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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Entity is right up my alley - rough and quirky sounds! So I bought (a license for) it immediately.

But.

On my Mac (10.6.8, VST and AU in Live 8, AU in DP 7) not only is the sound character deliciously quirky, but the response to MIDI events even more so, and not in a delicious, or (I suspect) intended way.

Some patches don't respond at all, except once in a blue moon. 'Short Rip' is but one example. Strangely, it does play from the built-in, virtual keyboard in Entity, but only occasionally when I hit keys on my Roland A-500 Pro.

Peti and Combo Sister work without a hitch in the above environments.

Some patches play strange in that I have to release a note before the next one will play. Not conducive to fluid playing, even should it be intended behaviour.

'Release Nice Sound' is said to be 'gliding arpeggios'. Nothing of the sort on my system. Single, short notes is all I can squeeze out of it.

'Pulse Hit' behaves really strangely. No sound if I hit a note, BUT if I hold the note and then strike another, the first note will sound on release of the second!

I could go on, but it's getting late over here. There's obviously something fishy going on in Entity 1.0 and it would be interesting to hear if Windows users (and, of course other Mac users) have had similar weird experiences.

All my other softsynths (quite a few!) play normally in my setup.

Best,

Joachim
If it were easy, anybody could do it!

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Spitfire31 wrote:
'Pulse Hit' behaves really strangely. No sound if I hit a note, BUT if I hold the note and then strike another, the first note will sound on release of the second!

There's obviously something fishy going on in Entity 1.0 and it would be interesting to hear if Windows users (and, of course other Mac users) have had similar weird experiences.

Joachim
It is acting quirky for me on Windows 7 64bit, the pulse hit patch you mentioned same problem, release nice sound same, a few patches didnt sound, notes sticking and a few other quirkes. I understand its not finished yet (which is why its on special offer) so I expect these bugs to be sorted in due time.

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projectdan wrote:
Spitfire31 wrote: 'Pulse Hit' behaves really strangely. No sound if I hit a note, BUT if I hold the note and then strike another, the first note will sound on release of the second!

There's obviously something fishy going on in Entity 1.0 and it would be interesting to hear if Windows users (and, of course other Mac users) have had similar weird experiences.

Joachim
It is acting quirky for me on Windows 7 64bit, the pulse hit patch you mentioned same problem, release nice sound same, a few patches didnt sound, notes sticking and a few other quirkes. I understand its not finished yet (which is why its on special offer) so I expect these bugs to be sorted in due time.
It warms my heart that me and my Mac are not all alone in this! ;-)

And I have the utmost confidence in Luigi's ability.

/Joachim
If it were easy, anybody could do it!

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Spitfire31 wrote:Entity is right up my alley - rough and quirky sounds! So I bought (a license for) it immediately.
Thanks Joachim
But.

On my Mac (10.6.8, VST and AU in Live 8, AU in DP 7) not only is the sound character deliciously quirky, but the response to MIDI events even more so, and not in a delicious, or (I suspect) intended way.

Some patches don't respond at all, except once in a blue moon. 'Short Rip' is but one example. Strangely, it does play from the built-in, virtual keyboard in Entity, but only occasionally when I hit keys on my Roland A-500 Pro.

Peti and Combo Sister work without a hitch in the above environments.

Some patches play strange in that I have to release a note before the next one will play. Not conducive to fluid playing, even should it be intended behaviour.

'Release Nice Sound' is said to be 'gliding arpeggios'. Nothing of the sort on my system. Single, short notes is all I can squeeze out of it.

'Pulse Hit' behaves really strangely. No sound if I hit a note, BUT if I hold the note and then strike another, the first note will sound on release of the second!
...
Peti and Combo Sister, and any other NUSofting plugin doesn't share any code with Entity, as the latter is a brand new project by me and Michael Olsen (Sonic Timeworks)
it is so "new" that I see it needs more work, especially on Mac, <wink>. I will promptly report to Michael (he's the Mac guy) all your issues, as soon he's back from vacation.
While I'm not doing holidays and I can fix Windows issues if any. Here in my studio I'm using Entity Win 32-bit almost daily and it's working pretty good.
I don't use Win 7 64-bit for developement yet but I have it on another new PC and the times I tried Entity seemed to work, but I only tried two hosts honestly.

About the Entity patches which use Arpeggiator, please note that if the Sync switch is on you must start Play in your host to run the Arpeggiator.

Cheers,

Luigi

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projectdan wrote:It is acting quirky for me on Windows 7 64bit, the pulse hit patch you mentioned same problem, release nice sound same, a few patches didnt sound, notes sticking and a few other quirkes. I understand its not finished yet (which is why its on special offer) so I expect these bugs to be sorted in due time.
Thanks for your confidence, yes I will fix all that as soon as I can reproduce it,
if you have the time it would help me an e-mail or pm from you with a list of the buggy presets you found
and some info about your VST host and MIDI setup.

Cheers,

Luigi

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Hi all,

seems that some (or all?) of the issues that Spitfire31 reported are
related to two settings:
1) Mono mode
2) Arpeggiator Sync to host


1 :: Entity features 3 play modes, poly, mono and legato,
the Mono mode retriggers the note on release Legato does not.
So it could be that the retrigger function is not working correctly.
Please check if the incriminated preset uses Mono mode

2 :: When the Entity Arpeggiator has the Sync switch turned on
it behaves like a slave sequencer, that is waiting for the host to send a clock.
Therefore the presets, which use Arpeggiator in sync with the host,
NEED the host to be in play mode = running = ticking, otherwise you will
just hear a click noise playing Entity.
Please check if the incriminated preset uses Arpeggiator Sync to host

Looking forward to your feedback, many thanks.

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liqih wrote:Hi all,

seems that some (or all?) of the issues that Spitfire31 reported are
related to two settings:
1) Mono mode
2) Arpeggiator Sync to host


1 :: Entity features 3 play modes, poly, mono and legato,
the Mono mode retriggers the note on release Legato does not.
So it could be that the retrigger function is not working correctly.
Please check if the incriminated preset uses Mono mode

2 :: When the Entity Arpeggiator has the Sync switch turned on
it behaves like a slave sequencer, that is waiting for the host to send a clock.
Therefore the presets, which uses Arpeggiator in sync with the host,
NEED the host to be in play mode = running = ticking, otherwise you will
just hear a click noise playing Entity.
Please check if the incriminated preset uses Arpeggiator Sync to host

Looking forward to your feedback, many thanks.
Hi Luigi,

Let's start with your 2). Right on the money - it's the Sync feature that is haunting the arpeggiated patches if the host isn't running.

That's a bit hard to guess for someone just diving in and browsing presets…

It's harder still, because Sync is hidden at the bottom of the Edit tab AND its even harder because not all arped presets are labelled as such.

MY IDEA: a) Make arpeggiated factory presets not use Sync as default, b) take care to label all arpeggiated patches as such and c) create a twin 'Sync Arp to Host' button in the basic UI.

Anyway, no bug, just education necessary… ;-)

1) Mono mode. Sorry, but however I switch those presets like Short Rip and others between Legato, Mono and Poly, the problem remains when playing from a MIDI keyboard. The Entity graphic keyboard works. The hitch is the 1 Voice setting. If I switch to 2 or more voices, the patches become playable.

This may be a bug or glitch of some kind, perhaps.

I have a couple of other impressions.

Please, please, pretty please implement scroll wheel support! It's so frustrating having to mouse around to find that (too) low contrast scroll bar or the miniscule arrows.

And, on the subject of UI, surely that green/purple module switching pane just underneath System isn't meant to be always visible in Browser mode, where it has no function? The little green hide/show arrow changes when clicked but the actual pane can't be hidden in Browser mode (it does work as expected in Edit mode, though).

Lastly, and this is a purely a matter of personal taste: I don't think that the exciting potential of this synth is being realised to the full with the, IMHO, cramped, ugly, depressingly coloured and early Windoze-looking GUI. It looks messy and singularly uninviting. It looks like a development placeholder.

Luigi, I fully understand if you don't have time and/or resources to make a pro looking GUI, but then at least please make Entity skinnable, so that enthusiasts can have a go at it!

Entity deserves a tempting GUI. A pretty face will sell!

Best,

Joachim
If it were easy, anybody could do it!

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