ImpOSCar2 Is Actually Here (Mac And PC), No Really, It Is

[musikmachine]

109 Euro to upgrade? Thanks but I'll pass.

It is €59 if you own the original (and did not buy imp1 at the crazy €39 sale).

I got mine as NFR, and can't upgrade. Rats..

I have no idea why anyone would buy software from companies with policies like this.

You're kidding? Most would probably buy it if they weren't affected by this. I'll definitely have to think about it.

[Dr.Wu]

it is quite common that NFRs dont qualify for upgrades.
Most people that qualify for NFRs simply get a new NFR when a new version comes out.
LIke reviewers, betatesters etc

[Foxis]

I tried this early on in Poly-Ana but I ended up disabling it. It works, but you just end up making a potential conflict between MIDI and automation. There's no advantage to doing this, the MIDI *IS* the automation. You record MIDI from a controller OR you record automation from the GUI editor.

So any controller can already "automate easily", because your sequencer records and plays back the MIDI it sent, just like it's being sent for the first time.

I think the word "easily" is up for debate.
I am not sure how other DAWs deal with this, but in my experience it is far easier to deal with native automation data in Logic than recorded midi cc data. For example. things like overdubbing the data, visually separating and editing the data, etc. is much messier with midi data than automation.

So, sure it is a perfectly viable workaround but it is far from perfect. On the other hand, maybe I'm being picky considering the issues people had with stuff in the early midi days...

[4damind]

Is there a statement about a planned PC version?

[JonHodgson]

May i ask Mr Hodgson, is it likely we'll see the PC version this year?

Yes

[musikmachine]

it is quite common that NFRs dont qualify for upgrades.
Most people that qualify for NFRs simply get a new NFR when a new version comes out.
LIke reviewers, betatesters etc

Is true. I bought it from another user but 110€ is kinda high. I did a checkout in the shop and it's 139€. Some clarity on the pricing would be good!

[musikmachine]

May i ask Mr Hodgson, is it likely we'll see the PC version this year?

Yes

Thanks!

How's that 4damind?

[4damind]

May i ask Mr Hodgson, is it likely we'll see the PC version this year?

Yes

Thanks!

How's that 4damind?

It's great Better late then never

[JonHodgson]

it is quite common that NFRs dont qualify for upgrades.
Most people that qualify for NFRs simply get a new NFR when a new version comes out.
LIke reviewers, betatesters etc

Is true. I bought it from another user but 110€ is kinda high. I did a checkout in the shop and it's 139€. Some clarity on the pricing would be good!

NFRs to be upgradeable @ €59 (+ VAT if applicable)

(edit: excluding ones orginally bought at the blowout price, for obvious reasons).

Please contact Chris about it if you want to upgrade an NFR, or about anything else you have questions about really.

I think a little explanation may help. The release of the imp2 was supposed to coincide with the roll out of a new website, and by new I don't mean just looks different, I mean the whole back end is changed.

Unfortunately the launch date was missed, and because of prior commitments of people involved, this meant a big delay in the roll out of the new site and in the meantime GForce have had to modify the existing site to cater for imp2 sales, and it's not an easy site to modify... hence the lack of an on site paypal option, and the problem with update pricing on NFRs.

[DubFox]

correct me if I'm wrong...but at the time of that blowout 39 euro sale, wasn'it it made clear what the upgrade price to impOSCar 2 would be for people to took part ?

I'm 99.99% certain it was. But I'm not personally motivated enough to confirm via a little googling.


I guess it sucks if you bought one of those licensed used, and the seller didn't tell you about that. But I'd say your grievance, if you have one re: the upgrade price, falls at the seller's feet - not Gforce.

[JonHodgson]

correct me if I'm wrong...but at the time of that blowout 39 euro sale, wasn'it it made clear what the upgrade price to impOSCar 2 would be for people to took part ?

I'm 99.99% certain it was. But I'm not personally motivated enough to confirm via a little googling.


I guess it sucks if you bought one of those licensed used, and the seller didn't tell you about that. But I'd say your grievance, if you have one re: the upgrade price, falls at the seller's feet - not Gforce.

Yes it was made clear, in fact it was still in the news section until after the initial relase of imp2

WHAT ABOUT UPGRADING TO IMPOSCAR2 WHEN IT'S RELEASED?

If you decide to upgrade to impOSCar2 once released, we'll give you €29 Euros off the full web price.

This means that your original impOSCar will have cost you just €10 Euros! In the interim everything you learn on impOSCar is going to be of use with impOSCar2.

[AdmiralQuality]

I tried this early on in Poly-Ana but I ended up disabling it. It works, but you just end up making a potential conflict between MIDI and automation. There's no advantage to doing this, the MIDI *IS* the automation. You record MIDI from a controller OR you record automation from the GUI editor.

So any controller can already "automate easily", because your sequencer records and plays back the MIDI it sent, just like it's being sent for the first time.

I think the word "easily" is up for debate.
I am not sure how other DAWs deal with this, but in my experience it is far easier to deal with native automation data in Logic than recorded midi cc data. For example. things like overdubbing the data, visually separating and editing the data, etc. is much messier with midi data than automation.

So, sure it is a perfectly viable workaround but it is far from perfect. On the other hand, maybe I'm being picky considering the issues people had with stuff in the early midi days...

Everything is difficult in Logic.

But again, I've tried this. Turning incoming MIDI into automation is as easy as changing one function name (setParameter() to setParameterAutomated() in your processEvents() handling of the MIDI message). But I found it caused more problems than it solved so I took it out. Also, MIDI events are sample accurate but automation events are only buffer accurate (at least in VST2.x and I believe AU as well). If you record MIDI and automation at the same time you'll be recording two sets of the same commands, and they won't necessarily play back in the same order they were recorded as automation events lack the deltaFrames feature that the MIDI messages are marked with, so you can't know how many samples into the next buffer to fire them at. They always happen between buffer calls.

By definition, automation is meant to record and playback GUI performance.

[Naturalist]

Good news, PC users!!!!!

We have completed the transition. Final testing is under way. In typical GForce style it's taken us longer than we had expected or hoped. But we feel the extra downtime will be worth it. For those of you in need of support, we genuinely apologise for the inconvenience. Monday will see the re-launch of our website and release of something new.

We value your custom. Thank you for being so patient while this transition has taken place.

GForce

Source: http://gforcesoftware.com/

[zvenx]

The PC version is out.
downloading demo now.
rsp

P.s I Love how customizable your PC installer is.
kudos on that.
rsp

[loopdon]

Will check asap. Glad it's there, finally!