KVR Audio

Silanda · Post by **Silanda** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:40 pm

ben_horwood wrote:Also for your consideration, is that a lot of the sounds are probably leased from Eric Persing of Spectrasonics who probably still owns the rights to these. So they might not even BE Roland's sounds to give away anyway.

I really doubt that. As far as I know the patches were created for Roland while Eric Persing was employed by them. There are exceptions but employees do not usually own the rights to the things that they are paid to create by their employer.

CoolColJ · Post by **CoolColJ** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:43 pm

The samples on the D50 aren't what makes it sounds good though...

It's the "VA" engine, chorus and converters

People seem to have this miscnception that the D50 was primarily a Rompler, it isn't. It was probably the first VA ever made, with PWM on pulse and sawtooth waves and all

Albert.VST · Post by **Albert.VST** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:01 pm

JonHodgson wrote:But you'll notice Korg haven't been rushing to do other plugins.

(off topic) yeah, a PS-3100/3300 VSTi addition to Legacy would have been very nice.

Silanda · Post by **Silanda** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:16 pm

CoolColJ wrote:People seem to have this miscnception that the D50 was primarily a Rompler, it isn't. It was probably the first VA ever made, with PWM on pulse and sawtooth waves and all

Not me, I love my D-50's synth abilities! I've got to admit though, those old school waveforms do add to the charm. It just wouldn't be the same without them ("Digital Native Dance" FTW).

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:12 pm

Silanda wrote:
CoolColJ wrote:People seem to have this miscnception that the D50 was primarily a Rompler, it isn't. It was probably the first VA ever made, with PWM on pulse and sawtooth waves and all
Not me, I love my D-50's synth abilities! I've got to admit though, those old school waveforms do add to the charm. It just wouldn't be the same without them ("Digital Native Dance" FTW).

I'd take one

...makes we want to go look on Ebay and see how much they go for these days.

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:32 pm

Silanda wrote: It just wouldn't be the same without them ("Digital Native Dance" FTW).

Best synth preset ever made

MrDuke · Post by **MrDuke** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:53 pm

K-Bee wrote:But the question remains...why???

If they don't want to do it themselves why not license the samples to some other developer and earn a bundle while they're at it. A stand alone vst or a Kontakt instrument would sell well. The 31,000 views mentioned before proof that this synth is NOT gonna be forgotten any time soon.

In my opinion, partially there's a certain "mythology" surrounding the D-50. Perhaps there's interest because people who actually played it in the 80's, have fond memories of it...or because there's an interest in everything retro (and that's what it is). Then there are the famous recordings, like MJ's "Bad", that utilized it.

A few of the sounds HAVE appeared in various forms, though:

There was a really good Reason ReFill called 'Deepflight'.

Puremagnetik has a Kontakt instrument called the 'P-50 Linear', which has about 30 patches. They even mention "Roland D-50" (which, along with the sounds, I'm sure, is a trademark?) when they talk about it.

There's also about 10 D-50 sounds in zero-g's 'Nostalgia' Kontakt package.

boin · Post by **boin** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:13 pm

Examigan wrote:I'd take one ...makes we want to go look on Ebay and see how much they go for these days.

If you really mean it, don't forget the D-550 module - a D-50 without keyboard. I've got both (D-50/D-550) for many years now and still want to keep them.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:45 pm

Man, this topic is ancient! It would be quiet easy to make a D50 style vsti. All you need is a few layers of sampled attack transients layered with standard sustaining oscillator waveforms. That and a function to scan through the sample memory.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:15 pm

boin wrote:
Examigan wrote:I'd take one ...makes we want to go look on Ebay and see how much they go for these days.
If you really mean it, don't forget the D-550 module - a D-50 without keyboard. I've got both (D-50/D-550) for many years now and still want to keep them.

Yes but no $$ for it, would love one though.

When I was taking a course for music engineering/music theory back in the 80's, the college I was at had a D-50 and bunch other rackmounted stuff. If I remember right, there was an Akai 12-bit sampler in that rackmount section (I think it was this one) http://www.vintagesynth.com/akai/s900.php
and a MT-32 and lots of others.

Good old days

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:46 pm

Examigan wrote:
boin wrote:
Examigan wrote:I'd take one ...makes we want to go look on Ebay and see how much they go for these days.
If you really mean it, don't forget the D-550 module - a D-50 without keyboard. I've got both (D-50/D-550) for many years now and still want to keep them.

Yes but no $$ for it, would love one though.

When I was taking a course for music engineering/music theory back in the 80's, the college I was at had a D-50 and bunch other rackmounted stuff. If I remember right, there was an Akai 12-bit sampler in that rackmount section (I think it was this one) http://www.vintagesynth.com/akai/s900.php
and a MT-32 and lots of others.

Atari 1040ST and Master Tracks Pro also.

Good old days

bwwd · Post by **bwwd** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:54 pm

If its so easythen why theres nothing in vsti that comes close ? even m1 in its vsti form sounds kinda weak and digital.Im afraid roland would sound the same, very digital and flat.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:56 pm

Wow I had a 1040 ST...and an MT32....Lot's of other hardware gear as well (Still have my ESQ-1, U-220 and R-5)..........I always wanted a D-50 and have eyed a few used ones over the years. I'd like to have a D50 vsti for nostalgia if for nothing else........

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:58 pm

bwwd wrote:If its so easythen why theres nothing in vsti that comes close ? even m1 in its vsti form sounds kinda weak and digital.Im afraid roland would sound the same, very digital and flat.

Of course the originals were digital....The M-1 vsti sounds fine here......not at all weak coming out of the 12" mains and 8" rears.....

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:28 am

Teksonik wrote:Wow I had a 1040 ST...and an MT32....Lot's of other hardware gear as well (Still have my ESQ-1, U-220 and R-5)..........I always wanted a D-50 and have eyed a few used ones over the years. I'd like to have a D50 vsti for nostalgia if for nothing else........

Hey Tek, that's cool

I had a 520ST-FM for years (I upgraded it to 1 meg of Ram) and
Master Tracks Pro, plus at different points in time: a CZ-101, a DX-21, a D-4 drum module, and my brother let me use his D-110 module too.

I never could afford a D-50 back then though.

Anyway, I would love some of that past in vst form. I still have to get the M1 and a couple of the other vsts by Korg.

Roland D50 VST