HA! Awesome....vintage psenior response. Except it needs more "bebop locrian"psenior wrote:Guys I listened to this song for 90 seconds; that's all I could take. It's in the chromatic key. That's all the black keys on the keyboard plus all the white keys. Just fart around with a few random notes in the high and low registers of the piano with some pauses you're golden! If it starts to sound like music you're doing it wrong.
Wat chords r these?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1084 posts since 12 Sep, 2008 from Your basement
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- KVRAF
- 6388 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
I get you wanted to take a pop at ignorance of music in others. But boasting of your own ignorance while doing so, that's a novel strategy. Not likely to be successful. But novel.Ogg Vorbis wrote:Uh...because it's highly serialized bits and bobs? Can we get back to making fun of illiterate dance producers now?Gamma-UT wrote:Sorry for intruding on the sub-Beavis & Butthead/4Chan "hot babe plays difficult music" meme but the answer to the question is: there aren't any. I wonder if Ogg Vorbis knows why.
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- KVRAF
- 5546 posts since 13 Feb, 2006 from Wiesmoor, Germany
Sounds like a Reaktor ensemble I once made......before I implemented the quantization 
Cheers
Dennis
Cheers
Dennis
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- KVRAF
- 1966 posts since 22 Mar, 2002 from Timisoara, Romania
Note: Some people take notes too serious. (frigid!?)
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
Doing any Stockhausen piece is a real challenge. I've even attempted to at a few points. There are all manner of different things going on in those pieces.
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 15 Jul, 2011 from Portland, Oregon
I have some of knowledge of Stockhausens work. I have been to a few of his summer classes prior to his death (along with playing for the man myself). Many of his pieces were highly serialized(especially the later ones). But they also were based on a "Master Formula" that he devised.
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
oh well, as long as there's a theory and conceptual framework behind it
now all's we need is a few experts to help us differentiate between a good performance and a poor performance
now all's we need is a few experts to help us differentiate between a good performance and a poor performance
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I get that there is a context of a certain kind of question from people that demonstrated their ignorance by asking it. That were never asking any question other than 'you'll do this for me? as I have never done any such work so can't tell the key at all' and half the time there aren't even any chords to find. I can't actually glean OV's POV per this actual composition. 'Bits and bobs' seems dismissive, but, I donno.Gamma-UT wrote:I get you wanted to take a pop at ignorance of music in others. But boasting of your own ignorance while doing so, that's a novel strategy. Not likely to be successful. But novel.Ogg Vorbis wrote:Uh...because it's highly serialized bits and bobs? Can we get back to making fun of illiterate dance producers now?Gamma-UT wrote:Sorry for intruding on the sub-Beavis & Butthead/4Chan "hot babe plays difficult music" meme but the answer to the question is: there aren't any. I wonder if Ogg Vorbis knows why.
I think the reaction that Stockhausen's intent was fraudulent and just random noise has got to be ignorant. It seems like an automatic reaction. My response to this is, 'hmm, seems like he was taken with the whole Boulez total serialism idea for a time'.
'As long as there's a theory...' There is a conceptual framework. There is a practice out of that framework. There is a difference between theory and practice.
Is there a necessary problem with expertise regarding the performance? If you believe so, what is that based on? Your attitude, I think. You seek to dismiss this activity. It bugs you. That's interesting...
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 7 Feb, 2005 from Finland
I think Frank Zappa said this:
7. What is your conception of your Dream Girl?
She is an attractive pariah, with an I.Q. well over 228, with complete mastery of "Br'er Rabbit," any five Indian cookbooks, the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Pat Butram Story (she gotta know all the words to the album!); no interest whatsover in any way in sports, sunshine, deoderant, lip stick, chewing gum, carbon tetrachloride, television, ice cream ... none of that stuff!
In short -- a wholesome young underground morsel open to suggestion!
P.S. I don't even care if she shaves her legs. Jest about anybody will do if they can dance. I'm not really sure any of this is true. I'll have to check it out a couple of times. Wait! Any girl is all right as long as she doesn't have hair like Bob Dylan, or maybe she could even have that if she knows how to ride a motorcycle. I might even like her better if she can play Stockhausen on the piano -- Klaviarshtuck XII.
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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 15 Jul, 2011 from Portland, Oregon
To say that Stockhausen punked people is a bold statement. especially since you do not support your statement. There is a reason why the German Arts people threw money and time into his and many other pioneers of electronic music. Also saying that he punked people is like saying that anyone who buys a record nowadays gets screwed over because they only play 3 chords, I-IV-V. I will say that Stockhausens music is not for everyone. The same that Rock, Country,Trance, and every other genre isnt for everyone. If you dont like it, dont listen to it. But also remember some do actually enjoy Stockhausens music. Some may even have the open mind to appreciate others ideas of what is music.
To answer the question of whether this is a "Good" performance or not. This would be a good performance. The way they did things when he was alive was you played with people who Stockhausen knew the music. Then IF you knew the music, you performed for the man himself. After a few days of "lessons" with him, you played for the people. So to get as far as playing for Stockhausen, you had to know your stuff.
To answer the question of whether this is a "Good" performance or not. This would be a good performance. The way they did things when he was alive was you played with people who Stockhausen knew the music. Then IF you knew the music, you performed for the man himself. After a few days of "lessons" with him, you played for the people. So to get as far as playing for Stockhausen, you had to know your stuff.