Diversion - new VST synth released!

[zorniko]

Then it's clearly not for you so just leave it alone....
....so I guess you can move on as well....

Excuse me Tek, but we are not just "two foreign objects in the body".
"Leave it alone and move on" is simply not a nice style of debating.

[zorniko]

You're allowed to have an opinion, so go right ahead mate

Thanks George.

No, it is not just because of the demos
Ariston said that "there is something distinctly unpleasant about the overall sound", and I agree with that.

I'm sorry if some people are offended by opinions.
They are here for the things to become better.

[Teksonik]

Then it's clearly not for you so just leave it alone....
....so I guess you can move on as well....

Excuse me Tek, but we are not just "two foreign objects in the body".
"Leave it alone and move on" is simply not a nice style of debating.

Why? What is there to debate? You don't like the sound of Diversion and that's a perfectly legitimate opinion. Therefore it makes no sense for you to contiune with this thread....you're simply moving from "debating" to arguing...........Not everybody likes the sound of every synth and that's to be expected but continuing to harp on the fact doesn't do anything but waste your time..........

[zorniko]

Therefore it makes no sense for you to contiune with this thread....

That is up to me to decide.

you're simply moving from "debating" to arguing..........

No, that is what you are doing.

continuing to harp on the fact doesn't do anything but waste your time..........

Again.

The whole point was the way you wrote that first post. You can't just say "leave this and go" to anybody.

[Teksonik]

Therefore it makes no sense for you to contiune with this thread....

That is up to me to decide.

you're simply moving from "debating" to arguing..........

No, that is what you are doing.

continuing to harp on the fact doesn't do anything but waste your time..........

Again.

The whole point was the way you wrote that first post. You can't just say "leave this and go" to anybody.

I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do.....but if you don't like the synth why stay? Just to argue? I hardly think the Developer will rewrite the code just because you don't like the sound so continuing here is pointless......but as you said that's up to you.....if you have nothing better to do then by all means do carry on.........

[LfmC]

Therefore it makes no sense for you to contiune with this thread....

That is up to me to decide.

you're simply moving from "debating" to arguing..........

No, that is what you are doing.

continuing to harp on the fact doesn't do anything but waste your time..........

Again.

The whole point was the way you wrote that first post. You can't just say "leave this and go" to anybody.

I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do.....but if you don't like the synth why stay? Just to argue? I hardly think the Developer will rewrite the code just because you don't like the sound so continuing here is pointless......but as you said that's up to you.....if you have nothing better to do then by all means do carry on.........

Agreed. It's a matter of taste/ears/monitors/habbits/etc, and making an empty statement like that is not productive, and frankly kinda rude, when you're well aware the developer will not/can not change the sound of a synth just because you don't like it. It seems someone has too much time on their hands, as I doubt any normal producer out there wastes their time reading threads on synths they don't like, not to mention argue with satisfied users for no good reason.

[GeorgeZ]

C'mon, he was just giving his opinion as well, nothing to fret about. I think everyone's taking this all a bit too seriously.

[megadeth]

I think the distinctive high frequencies are irritating some ppl, whereas exciting some others

A little like Walordf synths : some love their complex, metallic sound.
And some hate it, and prefer lush classical VA ones

My only feature request would be a lush/smooth output overdrive along with the other effects.
I think it is the key to tame some aggressive spikes i hear, keeping the overall dynamic.

It may please more ppl this way

This is just my humble opinion

[davidka]

My only feature request would be a lush/smooth output overdrive along with the other effects.
I think it is the key to tame some aggressive spikes i hear, keeping the overall dynamic.

It may please more ppl this way

This is just my humble opinion

I may not get Diversion in the future, but +1 on this. When I used Rez3, a lush tube overdrive did wonders to that harsh lil' gem

[sches]

Thanks for your opinions, I'm really appreciate all comments, not only pleasant ones. And this is true: Diversion's sound can't be nice for everyone. One my friend, who helps me to beta test Diversion, asks me someday: "How can I disable these high freqs? They are buzzing right in my head. I'd like to have darker sound". And he is right in his opinion. But, all of this is the major feature of the plugin. I wanted to develop such synth, and I like this sound. But this is not a reason to make the plug freeware. There are many efforts already put in the synth, and there are a lot of things I should to do further.

Distortion FX that is currenlty available, is only the nominal effect. I want to implement more interesting characters. Thanks for your requests!

Thanks GeorgeZ for the pad, I love this sound!

[FMlyours]

Hello Dmitry,

Thanks for your great job, it is really the quality sound i was seeking for to hear and to play...

Ok, now more materials thoughts:
I have already read your KVR forum discussions.
I bought it to support you for doing the right thing and because you said it was going to be crossplatform on MAC OSX to with no additional charge, and i hope it will be soon...
About the price: of course everybody is right to say that real quality is not or never overpriced, but the reality of the market and commercial consideration must be taken. Looking at quite similar quality synth like Zebra2, linplug synth, Rhino synth and the last Z3Ta+ 2 with all from 2 to 5 times presets( yes Lin plug Albino and Z3Ta+ 2 commes with 2000 native presets). Of course i agree and i prefer too to have 50% from less presets that i will really use for me than only 10% from much more presets i will not use in my music. For example i use mainly more Pads and textures sound than others like leads for example. And sometimes i bought the VSTi Synth just because i need the additional presets from others sound designers like Bigtone( BT and others but mainly...) sometimes include in the main patches with the synth and sometimes not, so i have to pay more to have what i need...
So now you guess what i mean: at 99$ it would be a really good bargain with only 200 presets, but keeping in mind that not everybody is in his soul a sound designer or a sound tweaker( mainly because of time( i am alone with 3 children) so they prefer to use it for playing and creating music with somme really good high quality inspiring sounds...), you know that they will buy you after, as i did, one or more additional soundsets if you have made the right associations with the best sound designers on the market place.

So on the other side at 149 or 200$ with much more sounds from other well recognized sound designers includes for the price it's a killer synth... keeping in mind that in todays economical crisis( I'm only a bus and subway driver to feed my family) synth lovers already bought a lot of synths with certainly some additional soundsets, and that makes think twice before buying an other VSTi, even if it is a really good and very surprising one...

I hope you will catch the thing and that you will make the right choice to succeed.

To say the truth, it helps me to decide that the exchange was in my favor...

When googlizing on the too high CPU load i found that( didn't check it yet) it's because you didn't conceive it with in mind multi-core and multi-thread SSE3 and SSE4 modern and actual processors? is it true, and if yes are you going to improve this in a near future, of course if you have time, i don't know if creating VSTi is your main activity? But i encourage you to do so and this is why i paid for...

So thanks a lot again for your amazing really good job and hope you could take a little time to answer me.

Take care...

FMly Yours
find the sound then you will Find the Music.

[zorniko]

...I like this sound.

Sches, thanks for your reply. Now that YOU confirmed that sound of your synth is something deliberately developed, with no intention to be changed in the future, I just wanted to wish you luck on further placement on the market. Of course, I still think that the sound quality of your synth is not worth $199 right now, but that's just MHO, sorry...

And btw, I won't be wasting my time writing this if I didn't saw a great potential in this synth.

Good luck!

[GeorgeZ]

I think the distinctive high frequencies are irritating some ppl, whereas exciting some others

You make a really good point actually. Fact is though that the high freq's can be tamed with the "brightness" settings and the numerous OSC filters, but granted, every synth can't be everyone's cup of tea, as mentioned before.

[sches]

Thanks, FMlyours, there are a lot of thoughts in your post that makes a real sense, no one is alien to me. I have answered your mail, check please. I will think about the price with respect to your message and others in this thread.

There is no any bug with Diversion's performance. It uses SSE2 to accelerate calculations. The plugin offers a very long polyphonic and oversampled audio path with a lot of the special improvements. This is why it requires more CPU power and one of the reasons that it sounding good. By the way, Diversion doesn't exceed too much CPU consumptions of many famous commercial synths with a similar architecture. I don't talk about Zebra2 or Sylenth1. We have done a lot of performance tests during development. But, I'll try to implement some CPU economic mode.

Thanks for your opinion zorniko, I know you are intended to convey a useful thought, thanks for it. I got it.

[Crackbaby]

High frequencies or not, the sound is just right to my ears for what i want to do It's rather the low frequencies that are my concern .. if you pull up the resonance of the 24/12db lowpass and turn the cutoff frequency down ........ Dr Evil could use this as an earthquake device
That said, i don't mind it that much, i just have to be careful and dial in with precision.


About the price ........ im sure it's worth every penny and i can tell you put a lot of work and soul into it. But.. im not a wealthy man due to, you guessed it - like many musicians, mental illness*. It's nearly impossible for me to afford it and that is with the introduction price. Maybe in a month or two but by then i may have gone back to electric guitar Creativity is an exciting road to follow, who knows where you'll end up

For now i'll have to settle for the sweepy noises, which is ok as im not a "producer", just a hobbyist who likes to make sounds and sequences and maybe put a track together once a year . But i would love to support you in this as you got some real talent and you also dared to go your own route. Impossible is a door that constantly must be broken into

One wish: Could you make it so that i can use the scrollwheel on the sequencer pitches? It would make it so fast to get the right note. Also, how do i turn a note off?

Keep up the good work!!!

*Not ment to be a sob story :p