KVR Audio

hcv242 · Post by **hcv242** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:26 pm

pc2000 wrote: The appeal for me with this, was a quick easy sampler to make some quick sounds with. (...)

I think adding streaming is among the most relevant features to add.

im sorry but you are contradicting yourself... if you want to make "some quick sounds with" it, why would you need streaming?....are you planning to make quick multi gigabyte sample libraries with it ?

i really think that streaming has no place in this kind of intrument \ sampler concept. and besides, nowadays computers have at least 4 Gigabytes of ram... you can put a full orchestra in 4 Gigabytes.

pc2000 · Post by **pc2000** » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:04 am

hcv242 wrote:
pc2000 wrote: The appeal for me with this, was a quick easy sampler to make some quick sounds with. (...)

I think adding streaming is among the most relevant features to add.
im sorry but you are contradicting yourself... if you want to make "some quick sounds with" it, why would you need streaming?....are you planning to make quick multi gigabyte sample libraries with it ?

i really think that streaming has no place in this kind of intrument \ sampler concept. and besides, nowadays computers have at least 4 Gigabytes of ram... you can put a full orchestra in 4 Gigabytes.

Sorry, I disagree about the streaming aspect being a contradiction or having no place! Even the old free SFZ sampler offers this as an option along with ram play back! SFZ & SF2 has nothing to do with massive sample playback library's. But' if you have really long samples, streaming comes in handy. Not everyone has 4 Gb's of memory or a new multi-core system, so I don't see how that's relevant?

Thinking about it,even Snyth-Edit has streaming wav modules available for it. I recently had a conversation with the guy at Sonic-Assault about his old Sam sampler crashing my computer because it used buggy streaming modules. He informed me that there were new & improved ram & streaming modules available and that he may come out with a newer sampler version. Why would anyone prefer loading gigs of samples in memory?

I'd rather see a solid, stable vst sampler instead of a bunch of specialized modulation features that would likely appeal to a small group of users rather than the masses. IMO, these features are best suited for some sort of a sample mangler device rather than an instrument sampler. The more pointless features U add & stack, the more bugs U introduce.

elcallio · Post by **elcallio** » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:36 pm

Hello again.

New update available from http://tx16wx.blogspot.com/.
0.9.03, adds some of the modulation people have wished for + lots of fixes and small tweaks. See website or first page of this thread for changelist.

One note: I've scaled back the filter resonance a bit as per some suggestions. I personally think it sounds more musically useful now. Let me know what you think.

Cheers
/C

pc2000 · Post by **pc2000** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:30 am

I mentioned earlier I couldn't get any sound in FL-Studio-10 nor Music creator5.
I did eventually get sound in MC5 after choosing the all mono output option, which took awhile to figure out. I also noticed the text in the upper left corner looked slightly broken.

I decided to try it in Cubase essential-6 which worked fine with no issues. So, my problems seem host related. This got me to thinking about the fact I didn't see any info on what version of vst this is! Is this a vst 2.4 plug-in or vst-3?

This could also be an issue for some having issues if it's vst-3? Would be nice if people listed what host they've been successful in using this in.

elcallio · Post by **elcallio** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:41 am

pc2000 wrote:I mentioned earlier I couldn't get any sound in FL-Studio-10 nor Music creator5.
I did eventually get sound in MC5 after choosing the all mono output option, which took awhile to figure out. I also noticed the text in the upper left corner looked slightly broken.

I decided to try it in Cubase essential-6 which worked fine with no issues. So, my problems seem host related. This got me to thinking about the fact I didn't see any info on what version of vst this is! Is this a vst 2.4 plug-in or vst-3?

This could also be an issue for some having issues if it's vst-3? Would be nice if people listed what host they've been successful in using this in.

It's VST 2.4. I tested it in the demo version of FL studio 10 and it seemed to work fine for me (not that I can use FL Studio but...)

Did it fail in FL on the same system as you ran Cubase on? As it says in the readme, there is a dependency on MSXML6, available on XP through SP3.

pc2000 · Post by **pc2000** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:52 am

Yes, I used it on the same win7 x86 system. I saw your notation about the MSXML6 dependency which stated the plug-N would not load without it. Your plug does load in the Hosts I mentioned, it simply doesn't play audio or seem to receive midi & the audio sample browser doesn't play sound either. Things only work in MC5 if I choose the audio option for all the mono outputs.

It works very well in Cubase. What version of windows are you using? I really like the filters! Changing the range on the resonance made a big difference. A band-reject or peaking filter would be nice additions. Having the filters as seperate standalone fx would be real nice. I would love to use them on other things.

elcallio · Post by **elcallio** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:41 pm

New version available for download (again!)
Lots of bug fixes - rapidly reaching usability!

Also added a Quick Start Guide for the most common features. Not complete by any means, but perhaps useful for some.

Cheers

elcallio · Post by **elcallio** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:46 pm

pc2000 wrote:Yes, I used it on the same win7 x86 system. I saw your notation about the MSXML6 dependency which stated the plug-N would not load without it. Your plug does load in the Hosts I mentioned, it simply doesn't play audio or seem to receive midi & the audio sample browser doesn't play sound either. Things only work in MC5 if I choose the audio option for all the mono outputs.

It works very well in Cubase. What version of windows are you using? I really like the filters! Changing the range on the resonance made a big difference. A band-reject or peaking filter would be nice additions. Having the filters as seperate standalone fx would be real nice. I would love to use them on other things.

Aha. I shall test in FL again and see what I can figure out. I didn't really test to produce any sounds... heh...

elcallio · Post by **elcallio** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:55 pm

pc2000 wrote:Yes, I used it on the same win7 x86 system. I saw your notation about the MSXML6 dependency which stated the plug-N would not load without it. Your plug does load in the Hosts I mentioned, it simply doesn't play audio or seem to receive midi & the audio sample browser doesn't play sound either. Things only work in MC5 if I choose the audio option for all the mono outputs.

It works very well in Cubase. What version of windows are you using? I really like the filters! Changing the range on the resonance made a big difference. A band-reject or peaking filter would be nice additions. Having the filters as seperate standalone fx would be real nice. I would love to use them on other things.

Ok, found it. Seems I did not report outputs in a manner that FL liked. Fixed. Expect yet another release by tomorrow.

Crackbaby · Post by **Crackbaby** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:23 pm

Jezez, it's hard to figure out how to work this baby!
I sample something and then ......... ?
In an earlier version i managed to get it to play back the wave .. i think(!)
Im using EnergyXT as host.
Should i assign the sample to a program? I tried but couldnt get it to work.
The is played back when i click on the waveform, so that is working.
I know, RTFM, but these things should be intuitive..

It is VERY easy and smooth to sample though!

larsalt · Post by **larsalt** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:05 pm

Another quick question: How do you get the sustain pedal to work?

larsalt · Post by **larsalt** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:09 pm

Crackbaby wrote:Jezez, it's hard to figure out how to work this baby!
I sample something and then ......... ?
In an earlier version i managed to get it to play back the wave .. i think(!)
Im using EnergyXT as host.
Should i assign the sample to a program? I tried but couldnt get it to work.
The is played back when i click on the waveform, so that is working.
I know, RTFM, but these things should be intuitive..

It is VERY easy and smooth to sample though!

The way I did it:

Create a new performance, channel slot and program. With the program selected, create a new group. Now you go to 'Keymap' and right click on the dark zone that shows the name of the group and select a sample (load some first if you have done so already). You can now add more splitts and samples.

Crackbaby · Post by **Crackbaby** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:46 pm

Thanks!

Maybe author could include some option to automate all that? If you just want to record one sample and have it out over keyboard..

larsalt · Post by **larsalt** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:19 am

Crackbaby wrote:Thanks!

Maybe author could include some option to automate all that? If you just want to record one sample and have it out over keyboard..

Actually, he kind of has (at least I don't think this used to be in there). When you create a new performance (right click) there's an option "perf+slot+program". You only have to create a group and then select your sample on the keymap screen. takes about 10 secs.

elcallio · Post by **elcallio** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:44 am

larsalt wrote:Another quick question: How do you get the sustain pedal to work?

Sustain and hold is not yet supported. It will be in very soon. (Sorry, not a big sustain pedal person, me)

Free VSTi Sampler : TX16Wx 0.9beta *update 11*

Free VSTi Sampler : TX16Wx 0.9beta update 11