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chj · Post by **chj** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:29 am

Downloaded the demo with the plan of sampling presets that were particularly appealing. With some other synths I sometimes come away with only 2-3 sampled presets. I've only gone through basses with Imposcar and I've sampled several. Probably a good sign that I should just buy it.

@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:16 am

Is that not frowned upon to download demos of synthesizers and sample them?

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:20 am

I can't imagine it not being.... since you after all have not purchased a license to use it in any form other than to demo it.
rsp

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:33 am

@midnight wrote:Is that not frowned upon to download demos of synthesizers and sample them?

I just asked this myself and it must be a short sample to eliminate the noise burst. Personally i never thought about doing samples from a demo version. If i would do i would not talk about it here at KVR i guess...

Ingo

Shy · Post by **Shy** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:09 am

No serious developer is gonna care if someone samples their synth.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:54 am

Ingonator wrote:
stimresp wrote:I bought Imposcar1 in the marketplace a few months back, but when I go into my account on the new website there is no sign of it. Anyone else having this issue?
In my case there was the opposite problem. Both Imposcar 1 + 2 appeared in my account at the new website (like they should) but also Oddity and Minimonsta again which i sold some time ago. I have contacted Chris about this.

Ingo

I have just checked my account at GForce. Everything looks OK now. The products i sold (Minimonsta + Oddity) are removed now.

Ingo

JonHodgson · Post by **JonHodgson** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:32 pm

Shy wrote:No serious developer is gonna care if someone samples their synth.

I'm a serious developer, and I do, in this context where he's avoiding paying for it.

I and others have put a great deal of work into producing those sounds, not only me developing the synth itself, and people helping test it, but also the people who worked on making and perfecting those patches.

Is it too much to ask that people who want to use those sounds give something back in return, i.e. pay for what I think is a very reasonably priced synth?

Seems to me to just be bad manners realy, both to those behind the sounds, and people who've joined the club by purchasing, like somebody gatecrashing a party and drinking the booze that everyone else brought.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:33 pm

I was thinking of sampling the noiseburst. Sounds like old vinyl.

FrankT · Post by **FrankT** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:06 pm

JonHodgson wrote:
Shy wrote:No serious developer is gonna care if someone samples their synth.
I'm a serious developer, and I do, in this context where he's avoiding paying for it.

I and others have put a great deal of work into producing those sounds, not only me developing the synth itself, and people helping test it, but also the people who worked on making and perfecting those patches.

Is it too much to ask that people who want to use those sounds give something back in return, i.e. pay for what I think is a very reasonably priced synth?

Seems to me to just be bad manners realy, both to those behind the sounds, and people who've joined the club by purchasing, like somebody gatecrashing a party and drinking the booze that everyone else brought.

I can relate to this. I wonder what the original post was up to. Bragging about sampling demo-versions to me looks like pure intent to upset devs ?

Fabriciom · Post by **Fabriciom** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:23 pm

Hello, not sure if this is the right place to ask but, is there any offers going around or group buys for this synth?

-Thanks

Shy · Post by **Shy** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:23 pm

JonHodgson wrote:
Shy wrote:No serious developer is gonna care if someone samples their synth.
I'm a serious developer, and I do, in this context where he's avoiding paying for it.

I and others have put a great deal of work into producing those sounds, not only me developing the synth itself, and people helping test it, but also the people who worked on making and perfecting those patches.

Is it too much to ask that people who want to use those sounds give something back in return, i.e. pay for what I think is a very reasonably priced synth?

Seems to me to just be bad manners realy, both to those behind the sounds, and people who've joined the club by purchasing, like somebody gatecrashing a party and drinking the booze that everyone else brought.

I'm all for buying a product if I like the sounds I can get from it, but if I made a synth (-synth-, not sampler/rompler, and either software or hardware) and someone's demands from it were so low that sampling it to play back some notes later was enough for them, it wouldn't bother me. The vast majority of the sounds a synth that isn't very simple could make can't be adequately "sampled" as far as I'm concerned and if someone didn't care about that and settled for samples, then it would tell me he doesn't need the actual synth in the first place. Frustrating for a serious synth maker or synth patch/preset maker, maybe, not because someone sampled their work, but because someone doesn't appreciate their work enough to buy it and enough to understand it and not settle for sampling of it. That really is frustrating, but what can ya do.

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:29 pm

Shy wrote:
JonHodgson wrote:
Shy wrote:No serious developer is gonna care if someone samples their synth.
I'm a serious developer, and I do, in this context where he's avoiding paying for it.

I and others have put a great deal of work into producing those sounds, not only me developing the synth itself, and people helping test it, but also the people who worked on making and perfecting those patches.

Is it too much to ask that people who want to use those sounds give something back in return, i.e. pay for what I think is a very reasonably priced synth?

Seems to me to just be bad manners realy, both to those behind the sounds, and people who've joined the club by purchasing, like somebody gatecrashing a party and drinking the booze that everyone else brought.
I'm all for buying a product if I like the sounds I can get from it, but if I made a synth (-synth-, not sampler/rompler, and either software or hardware) and someone's demands from it were so low that sampling it to play back some notes later was enough for them, it wouldn't bother me. The vast majority of the sounds a synth that isn't very simple could make can't be adequately "sampled" as far as I'm concerned and if someone didn't care about that and settled for samples, then it would tell me he doesn't need the actual synth in the first place. Frustrating for a serious synth maker or synth patch/preset maker, maybe, not because someone sampled their work, but because someone doesn't appreciate their work enough to buy it and enough to understand it and not settle for sampling of it. That really is frustrating, but what can ya do.

BS

Shy · Post by **Shy** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:38 pm

You make a great argument.

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:40 pm

On a par with yours.

Shy · Post by **Shy** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:44 pm

If you think so, better check your head.

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