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Dontcallcook · Post by **Dontcallcook** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:46 pm

Had a quick search but couldn't really find what i was looking for. If I'm trying to tune a sample to the key i'm working in, am i right in thinking i'd work out the key of the sample say it's in Bmajor and i'm working in Amin, would I transpose the sample up 1 semitone to make a it C major? or down 2 to make it Amajor? bit confused

stimresp · Post by **stimresp** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:13 pm

use a tuner?
http://www.gvst.co.uk/gtune.htm

Ogg Vorbis · Post by **Ogg Vorbis** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:13 pm

If you are moving from B major down to into the destination key of A minor, you MIGHT have problems. If your sample were an arpeggiation or melodic line or bassline which emphasizes the major scale it will clash with your minor scale if you transpose it down a whole step.

On the other hand, maybe your sample doesn't really commit itself to major OR minor (e.g. only has the root, fifth and octave root). In which case it WOULD work.

If your sample DOES emphasize the major scale, then throw it up a half step to C and see how it jibes with your A minor tracks.

Or maybe there is a plug-in that changes one mode to another one. I'd be curious to see if such a thing existed.

Dontcallcook · Post by **Dontcallcook** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:37 pm

ok cool so i couldn't work out the main progression for a song work out the key is Bmajor and assume all samples taken from the tune (vocals, keys etc.) should be taken up a semitone to Cmajor? if that makes sense

Ogg Vorbis · Post by **Ogg Vorbis** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:02 pm

Dontcallcook wrote:ok cool so i couldn't work out the main progression for a song work out the key is Bmajor and assume all samples taken from the tune (vocals, keys etc.) should be taken up a semitone to Cmajor? if that makes sense

I guess I can't really answer without knowing what the sample content is like. Just throw it up there and I guess, see if it sounds like shit or not.

Good luck!

Nystul · Post by **Nystul** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:38 pm

What kind of sample are we talking about? If it's something small and simple you can work it into your piece. If it's some vocal chorus or an 8 bar guitar riff or something, you will have to figure out the sample and work your piece around it. You cannot just take a random melody and a random chord progression and move one up or down a certain number of half steps and expect everything to work out. A melody will imply a specific harmony or at least a limited number of possible harmonies. One has to fit with the other as you move in time as well as being in the same key.

Loki Fuego · Post by **Loki Fuego** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:51 am

Is the question related to sample loops or one-shots. If it's a single chord then it's much easier. If it's a loop, then you could slice it to midi and then tun each part on it's own to fit the scale you want.

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