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DIGIFEX · Post by **DIGIFEX** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:13 pm

@ GOL: Is there any reason why Harmor has no lazy button to generate random sounds like Ogun can do? In my opinion Ogun is one of the most underrated synths out there. I grabbed me an Ogun license some time ago and one reason for my purchase was that to my surprise many of these random sounds are really usable. I'm not a friend of lazy buttons but it's stunning to hear what Ogun does.

(Anyway, I already got me a Harmor license too, it's just too unique not to buy it.)

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:38 pm

@ GOL: Is there any reason why Harmor has no lazy button to generate random sounds like Ogun can do?

I plan one later (& then an "Autoharm" plugin). But it's complex, it's not dumb randomization in Ogun, it's kind of an AI.

sagetone · Post by **sagetone** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:31 pm

I took the plunge and bought Harmor, after playing with the demo for a few days. I love the sound, and I love the possibilities, even though I was not 100% convinced.

Like a few have already stated, I too do not like the GUI. I have not been able to "dive in" right away with an interface that was intuitively laid out. But, like I said, there are possibilities with this VST that I don't have elsewhere in my arsenal, so I went for it.

I'm trying to learn about Harmor, spending the most amount of time in the area that is very new to me - the IMG tab. Tony, you wrote, in another thread:

tony tony chopper wrote:But on the other hand almost no one reads help files, I expect tutorials to be in videos.

I know there are several posted in this thread. But this thread is starting to get pretty long

so do you have these tutorials, and future ones, all in one place on the IL site or on YouTube? So that I can bookmark for quick and easy reference?

Also, a few more questions for Tony or Scott. My apologies if these have already been answered elsewhere, I haven't read all of the threads yet...

Is pitch bend fixed at +/- 2? I can't find a place to adjust it?

Is a 64-bit version planned? I'm using Sonar X1c 64-bit, had problems using Harmor with JBridge, so I've gone back to Sonar's BitBridge. It works fine, but I don't get the visualization panel. I seem to remember reading somewhere that this is mostly eye candy, so if I can't get this feature, may not be that big of a deal.

Is there only one, global, LFO?

I'm sure there will be more questions as I get further along with Harmor. Will IL be starting up a Harmor group in the IL forum?

Thank you.

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:42 pm

sagetone wrote:Is pitch bend fixed at +/- 2? I can't find a place to adjust it?

I can't see a "real" pitch bend parameter there... only the "Main Pitch" which controls the slider with the same name on the gui. But you can try the "Harmonic detuning multiplicator".

sagetone wrote:Will IL be starting up a Harmor group in the IL forum?

No, because it's already there!

http://forum.image-line.com/viewforum.php?f=1967

sagetone · Post by **sagetone** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:00 pm

Thanks Wildfunk,

Still can't find a dedicated group for Harmor. The link you posted brought me to the log-in page.

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:01 pm

sagetone wrote:Still can't find a dedicated group for Harmor. The link you posted brought me to the log-in page.

You're a customer (arent' you? *g*) of IL so just register/login.

sagetone · Post by **sagetone** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:14 pm

Yes, I can log-in, no problem. Just not finding a sub-forum for Harmor in the forum index.

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:15 pm

My link directly leads to the Harmor forum.

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:37 pm

A deep manual is very much needed, for me anyway.
I am not as skilled as many here, and its only been a couple days, but I have yet to really 'get it' with Harmor. I get the basics, I have yet to get 'the concept'.

Right now, there are two videos in the IL Group. The image resynth one is good, after watching it a few times to see whats going on. Narrator's day off?

Image-Line wrote:

That video is a nice introduction to waveforms, and a good intro to what 'additive/subtractive' is, but I am guessing theres a group of us that are somewhere inbetween knowledge of waveforms and really grasping Harmors tricks.

Geez.., am I getting old? Have I forgotten how to experiment...?

sagetone · Post by **sagetone** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:57 pm

Finally found all of the vids on YouTube, gonna watch them all to learn this puppy!

sagetone · Post by **sagetone** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:11 pm

Just watched what's up on YouTube, mostly demos though, and nothing really going deep into Harmor's engine. IL, hurry up with those good tutorials!

Image-Line · Post by **Image-Line** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:58 am

sagetone wrote:Just watched what's up on YouTube, mostly demos though, and nothing really going deep into Harmor's engine. IL, hurry up with those good tutorials!

We just updated the manual with these sections...

http://flstudio.image-line.com/help/htm ... esynthesis

http://flstudio.image-line.com/help/htm ... remappings

Regards Scott

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:49 am

sagetone wrote:
Is there only one, global, LFO?

What's that mean?

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:28 am

Is pitch bend fixed at +/- 2? I can't find a place to adjust it?

looks like we forgot a PB range in the main menu, however it should (normally, like our other synths) respond to MIDI PB range RPN

Is a 64-bit version planned?

no

It works fine, but I don't get the visualization panel.

the vis panel isn't really just a problem of bridge, many hosts don't support plugin resizing.
We have a couple of options, the best will probably be to display the panel in the main window (thus, over the controls).

Is there only one, global, LFO?

each "articulated" parameter has its own LFO

luckystrike · Post by **luckystrike** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:02 pm

When playing notes , I tried nyan cat sequence played continuously, I can see seek bar moving forward inside the envelope window. i.e Pitch>Envelope. With nyan cat kept playing , then I switched the part A to B and looked into the envelope window the seek bar isn't showed in this part's window. Is the seek bar supposed to showed in just one side of the part and not in the other part when the harmor is playing one note continuously?

Sorry if it is already questioned. Thanks.

Image-Line Harmor released