Introducing AmpliTube 3.5 Custom Shop

[blueman]

So far, the "JSA20H" sounds better than the "JSA100H" to my ears. Anyone else discover this? I can get the 100 to sound OK but it takes some doin' and when I go back to the 20 it just sounds better. The 20 has a great blues sound (more organic and "tubey") and doesn't seem to require much fiddlin' to get it right.

Hmmm, I wonder if this would be true with the real amps. Thoughts?

R

[blueman]

Listen to the dynamics and how the guitar volume interacts with the jet city 50 watter

http://www.box.net/shared/eqtf5285dub2fgs3r7lu

Don't you mean the 20 watt? There's no 50 watt JCA here. Is it the "JCA20H" or the "JCA100H" model? Sounds awesome either way!

[Dominus]

Thanks for raining on our parade, Funkybot!
Yeah, we decided to put the RAM management in a separate update all its own that will follow fairly closely, almost certainly before the next round of Custom Shop gear. The reason is that frankly, it's such a huge overhaul to AmpliTube that for testing purposes, it really needs to be its own update.

Yeah, come on, alright.
Now you've lost a customer. I've been waiting for so long for this issue being addressed and all we've got were the usual IK claims.
You can do this teasing with new models, advertisements, whatever, that's alright with me, but when promising that you're going to fix elemental bugs, which have been known FOR YEARS by now, then you could as well be a bit more transparent about it.
This should have been here by the end of last month and yet it get's delayed infinitely. Because yes, that's what IK does. That's what you guys have been doing for years now. No paying customer knows when to expect bugfixes for year old bugs, it was the same with AT2. You rather push a paid update, than fixing something in time.

Just stop making promises you obviously can't keep.

(Again, it's nothing personal, but it's a tendency with you guys.)

I still want to see separate plugins for amp, stomps, and cabs. I don't need 50 different stompboxes, I've already got the pedal VSTs that I need. I have plenty of impulses and a few different cab sims to choose from. I just want to load the amps alone. Line 6 POD Farm lets you do that. (Yes, I posted a competitor's product in your thread. IK did the same thing multiple times in a Line 6 thread.)

[Compyfox]

Well, up until PODFarm2 (which took them a couple of years!!!), this wasn't possible and you still had to load the full "suite" just to utilize one plugin.

I pretty much do the same for the time being with AT3 (just the cabinets and mics). I just with I had more control over the mics. Then again, I do have WAY MORE control with them than I ever had with GearBox/PODfarm.

[glokraw]

Wasn't 3.7 that release that was supposed to address the RAM issue (you know, the one where tons of it are used for each AT3 instance)? I don't see mention of this in the release notes.

Thanks for raining on our parade, Funkybot!
Yeah, we decided to put the RAM management in a separate update all its own that will follow fairly closely, almost certainly before the next round of Custom Shop gear. The reason is that frankly, it's such a huge overhaul to AmpliTube that for testing purposes, it really needs to be its own update.

On this side of the tracks, nobody calls it rain

[MickGael]

So far, the "JSA20H" sounds better than the "JSA100H" to my ears. Anyone else discover this? I can get the 100 to sound OK but it takes some doin' and when I go back to the 20 it just sounds better. The 20 has a great blues sound (more organic and "tubey") and doesn't seem to require much fiddlin' to get it right.
R

That has been my experience, as well.

[Dean Aka Nekro]

A 20 watter will naturally as a rule work better in a more (naturally) compressed blues style sound than a 100 watt, IRRC the Jet City 20 watt head hardware/analogue/real model deploys 4 EL84s for the power section whereas the 50 and 100 watt heads utilize 2 and 4 EL34s for their power sections respectively.

So if thats what your finding to be the case in the modelled variants character wise, Then it sounds about right to me FWIW

Dean

[Hink]

So far, the "JSA20H" sounds better than the "JSA100H" to my ears. Anyone else discover this? I can get the 100 to sound OK but it takes some doin' and when I go back to the 20 it just sounds better. The 20 has a great blues sound (more organic and "tubey") and doesn't seem to require much fiddlin' to get it right.
R

That has been my experience, as well.

well, the physical 20 watt model is EL84s while the 100 watt model is 6L6's which is of course the biggest difference between the 'British' sound and the 'Cali' sound. So there should be a difference between the two, hanx to Yellow Jackets I can run my Jet City 50 watt head with EL84s and there is a huge difference. (but it's in pentode mode and class A, if you have the triode Yellow Jackets the difference would much more bluesy) I tried both 20 watt and 50 watt and tbh I never thought I would buy another 50 watt or higher wattage amp* but I did so because I can use the YJs in it but not in the 20 watt version. There was a big difference in sound between the two tbh the idea of a 20 watt version is not all that far off for me though for the same money I would likely go with a picovalve with all things considered. One thing, the 50 watt is very unlike other amps I have owned, without the YJs (which also reduce the amp to 20 watts) it can play nicely at bedroom levels (but I still use an attenuator) and I am still surprised how responsive the tone controls are.


As for Hibidy calling it a 50 watt besides powere there is no difference, I have the 50 watt head and somehow I think my amp might be a little louder than the AT 100 wattt model

*keep in mind that with tube amps there really is not much of a difference between 50 and 100 watts and in fact the difference is barely noticable. 100 watts is perceived as twice as 10 watts.

[Hink]

A 20 watter will naturally as a rule work better in a more (naturally) compressed blues style sound than a 100 watt, IRRC the Jet City 20 watt head hardware/analogue/real model deploys 4 EL84s for the power section whereas the 50 and 100 watt heads utilize 2 and 4 EL34s for their power sections respectively.

So if thats what your finding to be the case in the modelled variants character wise, Then it sounds about right to me FWIW

Dean

no Dean, the 50 watt is 6l6

[Peevy2000]

I cant wait, downloading now to let out some ANGER!!! 7 mins to go!

[MickGael]

...I never thought I would buy another 50 watt or higher wattage amp* but I did so because I can use the YJs in it

I owned a Fender SuperSonic combo some years back. A VERY loud 60 watt 6L6 amp. I tried everything to make that a manageable amp, including the Yellow Jackets. They didn't do all that much to tame the volume, but I quite liked what they did to the tone.

[Hink]

...I never thought I would buy another 50 watt or higher wattage amp* but I did so because I can use the YJs in it

I owned a Fender SuperSonic combo some years back. A VERY loud 60 watt 6L6 amp. I tried everything to make that a manageable amp, including the Yellow Jackets. They didn't do all that much to tame the volume, but I quite liked what they did to the tone.

Well tbh 20 watts is not much quieter than 60 watts to the human ear, I have an Engater 20 watt Rebel as well and I can dial that dwon to 1 watt according to them (I'm not sure also owning a two watt tube amp that it is accurate) but at 20 watts? I could play out pushing a 4x12 with no problem. The YJs do not kill the volume much to the human ear but my weber attenuator that is rated at 50 watts likes 20 watt amps a lot more than 50 watt amps (or 60 as is the case with my boogie on 1/2 power or with the outer 6l6 tunbes removed).

For Brian or obik, I went to the custom shop on my lappy last night to get the jet city tbh but I could not find how to authorize it (or buy credits for that matter) by going to the site. I assume I have to install AT3.7 on my laptop?

[audiojunkie]

I see that you can authorize offline. Bout time. Off to shop!

Yes indeed.

So, are you saying that I can install this program on a computer that doesn't have internet access, and still be able to authorize and use it?!?

If so, that's going to make things a lot easier for me!

--Sean

[MickGael]

...I never thought I would buy another 50 watt or higher wattage amp* but I did so because I can use the YJs in it

I owned a Fender SuperSonic combo some years back. A VERY loud 60 watt 6L6 amp. I tried everything to make that a manageable amp, including the Yellow Jackets. They didn't do all that much to tame the volume, but I quite liked what they did to the tone.

Well tbh 20 watts is not much quieter than 60 watts to the human ear, I have an Engater 20 watt Rebel as well and I can dial that dwon to 1 watt according to them (I'm not sure also owning a two watt tube amp that it is accurate) but at 20 watts? I could play out pushing a 4x12 with no problem. The YJs do not kill the volume much to the human ear but my weber attenuator that is rated at 50 watts likes 20 watt amps a lot more than 50 watt amps (or 60 as is the case with my boogie on 1/2 power or with the outer 6l6 tunbes removed).

Nothing attenuated that amp. And I tried everything. With the clean channel at reasonable levels it was cold and flat. Up at 3 or 4 (for a hint of hair) it was like a hammer. I eventually sold it, and now (primarily) use a '66 Bandmaster and a '64 Twin Reverb Reissue - both of which are gloriously manageable. They both sound rich and full at any level.

[audiojunkie]

davidka, actually our "HiAmp" model is of the Custom 100, not 50.

from the FAQ:
"It is now possible to unlock Custom Shop purchases using the offline Authorization process. Please update your copy of AmpliTube 3 to version 3.7, available in your User Area > Downloads. You must also be running the latest Authorization Manager, version 1.0.5, which is installed alongside AmpliTube v.3.7.

For further documentation, please refer to Chapter 10 of the 'Install and Authorization Manual.pdf' contained in the download file for AmpliTube 3.7."

Not worthy of a separate thread, in honor of all the paranoid whiners
whose relentless leverage influenced this feature?

Way cool! I'm a "paranoid whiner," and this is good news!!!

--Sean