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Amon1973 · Post by **Amon1973** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:07 am

swartzfeger wrote: So... any Absynth fans out there that use it as a significant part of their workflow?

I'm a big fan of Absynth and use it for all of my alien / industrial / discomfort parts

So it is an important part of my creative process (not exactly my workflow: doing extreme metal, I just use synths to refine the music and create odd atmospheres).

Big Tick wrote:I love Absynth. And there is a 20$ alternative at audioMIDI, right now Alchemy is also an awesome synth, so you can't go wrong there.

And got that as well, thanks for the great offer.

ksandvik · Post by **ksandvik** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:16 am

Absynth is cool but it has its own unique sound that might or might not work in specific settings. If you want to be another dubstep wannabe copy-cat, I don't think Absynth is usable. If you want to sound original, then it's another story.

I released a dance track long time ago called Boltzman's Brains where 90% of the sounds were from Absynth. Those who know about those brains might appreciate the track

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spitboxer · Post by **spitboxer** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:49 am

yea a couple detuned saws being modulated by an lfo and a couple comb and distortion filters... absynth can't do that.

look past the presets. over and out!

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:52 am

Some of my first soft synth but the time it was released we had not many competitors. Native Instruments has no good sound designers. Absynth (and most of the other NI synth I tried) had too experimental sounds completely unusable if not used for soundscapes or FX so IMO Absynth is not a preset synth. But to program own sounds it needs a easy to understand interface where IMO Absynth failed. After the time fiddling with the interface the resulted sound is not better then with other modern soft synth.
I understand that there is not much love for Absynth. I've upgrade also to V5 but cannot remember the last time I used Absynth

bulvanskägg · Post by **bulvanskägg** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:13 am

4damind wrote:Some of my first soft synth but the time it was released we had not many competitors. Native Instruments has no good sound designers. Absynth (and most of the other NI synth I tried) had too experimental sounds completely unusable if not used for soundscapes or FX so IMO Absynth is not a preset synth. But to program own sounds it needs a easy to understand interface where IMO Absynth failed. After the time fiddling with the interface the resulted sound is not better then with other modern soft synth.
I understand that there is not much love for Absynth. I've upgrade also to V5 but cannot remember the last time I used Absynth

"Normal" sounds is not what Absynth is all about. If you do pop, trance, dubstep or any other type of commercial music and want that type of sound there are better choices, but if you're into experimental stuff and really want to push the sonic boundaries then Absynth is one of the very best.
BTW: anyone who says Absynth is difficult to program obviously hasn't spent a significant amount of time with an advanced digital hardware synth.

Bubbamusic · Post by **Bubbamusic** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:22 am

Absynth - great for big, phat, sloppy basses and beautiful pads.

tetsuneko · Post by **tetsuneko** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:50 am

Hmm.. Alchemy, does it have microtuning support?

redislandforever · Post by **redislandforever** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:55 am

absynth is awesome... without crash...

The world is not perfect.

Trahast · Post by **Trahast** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:12 am

Once again, I'm going to sound like a Skippy fan-boi (which I am, of course

), but why not have a look at John Lehmkuhl's videos on taking Absynth beyond the factory presets. Yes, he is plugging his preset packs, but he's a great teacher nevertheless. Taught me loads.

Cheers,

Trahast

swartzfeger · Post by **swartzfeger** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:24 am

Trahast wrote:Once again, I'm going to sound like a Skippy fan-boi (which I am, of course ), but why not have a look at John Lehmkuhl's videos on taking Absynth beyond the factory presets. Yes, he is plugging his preset packs, but he's a great teacher nevertheless. Taught me loads.

Cheers,

Trahast

Thanks for this. I watched Lehmkuhl's vids for another product (RMX?) and really liked them. His vids actually convinced me not to buy RMX because his tutorials were so in depth and made me realize it wasn't the platform for me.

re: Absynth --

Just loaded up the demo, and I'm starting to understand some of the downsides or less than enthusiastic responses I've seen here. Definitely need to give this some time, dig in, and see what I come up with. Lehmkuhl's vids will definitely help.

One thing I'd like to know is why have many folks said they would choose Alchemy over Absynth? More straightforward UI? Better engine?

mojogigolo · Post by **mojogigolo** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:41 pm

another vote for it being brilliant, but a little unappealing due to its being overly clever in the UI dept. and the colours.. the colours...

any1particular · Post by **any1particular** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:54 pm

This is a quite interesting review with the developer/creator of Absynth- Brian Clevinger. If you like these be sure to check out Skippy's other awesome Absynth tuts and patches at http://www.pluginguru.com/

Donner · Post by **Donner** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:02 pm

spitboxer wrote: Time to get them ears checked then... Seriously , listen to this example, a tremelo guitar, raw from my DAW, cubase and through absynth's oci. You tell me you can hear a difference?

No, you are right, I can hear no difference.

I took the bloody jump, downloaded and installed the demo and tested Absynth again.
I took some different samples and compared the raw version with the samples loaded into Absynth and I must say that they are equal.
I found out that if you only load a sample as mono, it gets that woodlike property - I must have done that some time ago.
So I can say: I was wrong, Absynth behaves properly when handling samples.

I tried a lot of its presets this evening and somehow - as I stated before - I miss some 'air' when I listen to Absynth. Nothing wrong with this plugin, I just don't fancy its sound.

EDIT: Just an observation: If I take an oscillator (Single), set it to Saw_real and listen to it, it is...well...a saw. If I put a filter on (LPF 4 Pole) with Hz = 220000 (full open, hopefully), then it sounds duller/highs are missing - to my ears.

PlasticSoul · Post by **PlasticSoul** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:31 pm

I have alchemy 5, its great, I dont program it, the factory presets are very good. No problem...

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:34 pm

You have several different versions of Absynth. Make sure you're using Absynth Stereo. Also check and make sure there's not a filter in the signal flow dampening the audio. That's my one gripe about Absynth is the roller type number selector's on the modules.

Absynth: why no love?