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The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:34 am

saichele wrote:and, for now, iPhone wins by a mile. just so many more stellar apps and specialized accessories.

Apps are indeed fun (Really the only thing I miss about the iphone), but all the applications in the world will never supplant having a more capable operating system.

Dewaine · Post by **Dewaine** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:05 pm

Congrats Ugo, you made a good choice! iOS is the most mature Mobile OS, and has the most software available for it. It is really the only choice at this time for music creation. I think down the road the others will improve, but iOS has a big lead, and the music apps are starting to mature as well....

Anyway, have fun!

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:25 am

The Chase wrote:all the applications in the world will never supplant having a more capable operating system.

I disagree, it's the contrary: Even the most capable operating system is useless if there are no apps for it.

9headshydra · Post by **9headshydra** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:29 am

IncarnateX wrote:
The Chase wrote:all the applications in the world will never supplant having a more capable operating system.
I disagree, it's the contrary: Even the most capable operating system is useless if there are no apps for it.

this !!!!

no matter how good the hardware and os is, if you have nothing to run on it, this beautiful box is just a useless gadget,

if you want to make music on a mobile os, Ios is the best at the moment,

certainly win 8 for arm will change the game (but when ? 1 year, 2 years, 5 years ?),

but I'don't see apple stopping the dev of ios too

TristezaOrange · Post by **TristezaOrange** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:38 am

IncarnateX wrote:
The Chase wrote:all the applications in the world will never supplant having a more capable operating system.
I disagree, it's the contrary: Even the most capable operating system is useless if there are no apps for it.

Three days ago I would agree with you but considering that my gf has an iPhone 4 and I just got an SGS II - I have to say that this device is so mind-blowing I couldn't live with an iPhone (or anything else currently out there TBH), even if it has some awesome music apps. I'm sure Android will get them in time - for now I'm playing a bit with Nanoloop and the CAUSTIC demo.

TristezaOrange · Post by **TristezaOrange** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:39 am

But I would certainly get an iPod Touch for music apps though (and I may do it when iOS 5 is out and is released for iTunes

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IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:43 am

TristezaOrange wrote:Three days ago I would agree with you but considering that my gf has an iPhone 4 and I just got an SGS II - I have to say that this device is so mind-blowing

But what is so mind blowing about it, if it can not run music apps? Is it so much better than an iPhone for making telephone calls? Visiting a net-site? Google maps? Checking mails? Sending sms? This is what I use a phone to do and I hardly need dual-core processors or wide screens for such basic operations. So what are you using your phone for?

ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:34 am

IncarnateX wrote:
TristezaOrange wrote:Three days ago I would agree with you but considering that my gf has an iPhone 4 and I just got an SGS II - I have to say that this device is so mind-blowing
But what is so mind blowing about it, if it can not run music apps? Is it so much better than an iPhone for making telephone calls? Visiting a net-site? Google maps? Checking mails? Sending sms? This is what I use a phone to do and I hardly need dual-core processors or wide screens for such basic operations. So what are you using your phone for?

Telephone calls about the same - but short cuts to favourite callers on the desktop is nice

Visting net sites - flash 10.3 - defintely better

Google maps - better integrtation, turn by turn navigation with realtime rerouting - 3d visualisation etc

Checking e-mails - push e-mail - better again

Sending SMS - not much in it here

So in summary the Glaaxy s is better for all of those basic functions. It also adds great multitasking, better screen, use as a spare drive, better mediaplayers, better codec performance, HDMI output, etc etc etc

The only thing that iphone has over android equivalents is the apps - but to be clear that is a pretty massive thing, but I think apple will struggle to keep all their best apps to themselves. Slowly but surely you will get android equiovalents of anything good.

i0s5 will bring iphone up to the same level with a few of those android features, but the music in the cloud thing - pfft

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:36 pm

ericj23 wrote:So in summary the Glaaxy s is better for all of those basic functions. It also adds great multitasking, better screen, use as a spare drive, better mediaplayers, better codec performance, HDMI output, etc etc etc

To each his own, I guess, and I am as far from a power-phone-user as can be and would never feel mindblowed over such things. If the basic works without crashes, it is fine for me. However, a great app like Nanostudio, that is something that can blow my mind and I wouldn't trade it for any of the bells and whistles mentioned.

Thus, there obviously are the "power-phone-user-approach" and the "Music-app-approach". Choosing one seem to leave out the other, at least until iOS get updated with further "power" functions or Andriod get some decent music apps.

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:49 am

TristezaOrange wrote:
IncarnateX wrote:
The Chase wrote:all the applications in the world will never supplant having a more capable operating system.
I disagree, it's the contrary: Even the most capable operating system is useless if there are no apps for it.
Three days ago I would agree with you but considering that my gf has an iPhone 4 and I just got an SGS II - I have to say that this device is so mind-blowing I couldn't live with an iPhone (or anything else currently out there TBH), even if it has some awesome music apps. I'm sure Android will get them in time - for now I'm playing a bit with Nanoloop and the CAUSTIC demo.

Feelsgoodman.jpg, to lose the general feeling of handicap/castration from having a less functionable/customizable device.

Going from a home screen that is a widget-based multitasking environment to a home screen that is a grid in an OS that requires fiddling through multiple screens to adjust basic properties, alone, was kind of like losing a limb. Then there is going from swype back to peck-and-pray, going from OLED back to LCD, from centralized non-disruptive notifcations to pop-ups and app icons having their own represented by a tiny number on their icon, from multitasking back to task-switching...ugh.

iOS 5 seems promising though, finally getting some lockscreen widgets, better notifications and social media integration.

IncarnateX wrote:
The Chase wrote:all the applications in the world will never supplant having a more capable operating system.
I disagree, it's the contrary: Even the most capable operating system is useless if there are no apps for it.

Going from 400,000 to 200,000 apps is hardly going to zero.

Plenty of Android apps utilize multitasking, come with a widget, have functionality in the notification drop-down, and replace system apps - OS functionality matters.

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:24 am

The Chase wrote: Going from 400,000 to 200,000 apps is hardly going to zero.

Android is gaining ground fast. Outside of music apps I expect app availability to be at least as good on Android as on iOS soon. Among my friends that do mobile development the word is that the iOS app developer market is now saturated and that the good money is now in Android.

Personally I'm doing iOS dev now because music apps are what I care most about but if Android ever gets its audio stack together I'll definitely switch.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:20 am

The Chase wrote:Going from 400,000 to 200,000 apps is hardly going to zero. .

I am talking about music apps and not apps in general and I yet have to see an Android music app that is anyway near such apps as Nanostudio, Beat Maker II, Aurora HD, iSequence and others from my sig, including the abilities of these to work together by virtue of copy and paste transfer.

The Chase wrote:OS functionality matters.

Yes, to the extent that an OS that doesn't work is a PITA but on my iPod and iPad, the iOS is working just fine, so we are not any way near that level of dysfunctioning. The other things you mention are just bells and whistles to me. No matter what specs of my phone, it will never be a mindblowing experience for me to check my mail, visit a website or view photos from a phone. It wouldn't even be on wide screen PCs.

I prefer good programs over good operation systems and can hardly understand the reverse priority; It seems to be rather conceptual than functional considering the things you can actually use your phone for.

But that's just me.

jones-y · Post by **jones-y** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:38 pm

the battle between iOS and Android looks awful familiar, doesn't it?

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:54 am

jones-y wrote:the battle between iOS and Android looks awful familiar, doesn't it?

The good news is that there is real competition in this market. As long as there are two or three viable choices every company has to try harder.

ashleekijiji · Post by **ashleekijiji** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:48 am

Android's multitasking is apparently better compared to the iPhone's which usually just suspends the apps. How does this difference affect music creation apps?

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