KVR Audio

ford442 · Post by **ford442** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:49 pm

hey guys,
i have a Firewire Audiophile - do any of you know if there is way to use it under linux? i can't really afford to upgrade interface just to use Ubuntu..

stanlea · Post by **stanlea** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:08 pm

Required informations are here

http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list&page=1

seems not very encouraging, but worth a try

ford442 · Post by **ford442** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:47 am

hmm.. down at the end it says that maybe a future version of Ubuntu will solve it.. but, that was 2007.....

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:45 am

ford442 wrote:hmm.. down at the end it says that maybe a future version of Ubuntu will solve it.. but, that was 2007.....

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire

If there are questions, after the coffee, whiskey, and more coffee,
have guided you through the docs and links, the current braintrust for this is now over here:

www.linuxmusicians.com

Post in the Computer Related Hardware section.
There are some firewire users nearby.

http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html has another good forum to post in

Also Tango Studio or Arch linux
might be better than ubuntu for using such a device in the long run.
Experienced audio devs are headed in those directions.

An maudio 1010 pci is a good alternative, easy solid support with the
snd_ice1712 kernel module in every distro thats got a pair. As are some new
focusrite firewire models, who are linux friendly. Some folks do have to sell to play.
No other way, if the hardware is unsupported.

Good luck

also, all the maudio pci cards should work, with excellent results.
An nvidia graphics card/chipset, is another key to a happy daw in linux.

Lerian · Post by **Lerian** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:16 am

LBN wrote:
S-N-S wrote:does anyone use linux mint for audio stuff??
Since Mint is simply a variant of Ubuntu I would imagine that all said about Ubuntu would apply to Mint.

there is also the debian flavour of mint (lmde) which i found to be faster and more stable than the ubuntu edition. this one is my favorite distro in terms of usability/stability/speed. although i didn't worked audio on it very much, it is ready for music production (ardour is included, and other software available on the repositories). maybe i will try linreaperand see how well it performs, but i doubt that i'll convince my m-audio fw to work under linux.

DWB2 · Post by **DWB2** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:23 pm

I'm currently thinking of getting a basic notebook to run Linux on for messing around with audio, general hacking and web browsing. I'm not planning to use it as a main DAW, more use it to experiment with stuff like PureData and Overtone, and to mess around with Python projects.

Is there a sensible way of picking a model where everything (particularly audio and wireless networking) will Just Work?

Sorry - this is probably a rather standard question, but I can't find any particularly good source of information on it...

ford442 · Post by **ford442** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:31 pm

some netbooks come with linux preinstalled.. just find one that is real linux and not a crippled proprietary install..

DWB2 · Post by **DWB2** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:35 pm

Yeah, I've seen a few. Although I was thinking of something with more grunt...

poezzz · Post by **poezzz** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:55 pm

DWB2 wrote:Is there a sensible way of picking a model where everything (particularly audio and wireless networking) will Just Work?

Take a LiveCD distribution on a CD or USB stick to the store and try it out

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:27 am

DWB2 wrote:Yeah, I've seen a few. Although I was thinking of something with more grunt...

unetbootin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNetbootin

allows a persistant live usbstick, among other install setups.
Macpup 5.28 would be nippy and elegant on a netbook.
But portable technology as a whole wars against audio production.
Do you have a main desktop computer daw?
Cheers

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:30 am

http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-audio-users/

this is a mail list where linux audio luminaries often post.
I am ro

but you others may find it a good source
to exchange gray-matter.

The Chubu · Post by **The Chubu** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:53 am

Once my netbook installs all the updates (tryin to get debian stable to debian testing), i'll give it a shot.

Need to get nVidia drivers working first (pain in the ass, but i think that nouveau is not downclocking my ION 2 so i guess it fcks up battery usage), then audio drivers.

Windows 7 + FL Studio was a no-go. It crapped my poor Atom N450. Then i crapped Windows 7 while after installing Debian hahaha.

EDIT: Fck, Synaptic's window is blank, its not responding at all. I think it tried to install a 3.0 kernel with PAE enabled (no need since i have only 2Gb of RAM). I dunno where to look for where it fckd up...

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:35 pm

The Chubu wrote:Once my netbook installs all the updates (tryin to get debian stable to debian testing), i'll give it a shot.

Need to get nVidia drivers working first (pain in the ass, but i think that nouveau is not downclocking my ION 2 so i guess it fcks up battery usage), then audio drivers.

Windows 7 + FL Studio was a no-go. It crapped my poor Atom N450. Then i crapped Windows 7 while after installing Debian hahaha.

EDIT: Fck, Synaptic's window is blank, its not responding at all. I think it tried to install a 3.0 kernel with PAE enabled (no need since i have only 2Gb of RAM). I dunno where to look for where it fckd up...

Maybe give the 400 meg debian/E17 Bodhi linux an install. It's small and fast, has
a good dev and forum, and it works.
Cheers

The Chubu · Post by **The Chubu** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:21 am

glokraw wrote:Maybe give the 400 meg debian/E17 Bodhi linux an install. It's small and fast, has
a good dev and forum, and it works.
Cheers

Thanks but no. Im not going to learn anything about linux by trying stuff that just works haha I like to mess around with these things.

Anyway, a reboot after and the new kernel worked well, but one of my netbook FN shortcuts got borked for no reason.

Tried to install another kernel, this time by mystelf, configuring it, but after 3hs or so compiling it game me an error

Need a faster PC to compile but i dun have Debian installed on my desktop : /

Anyway, what is this "real time" kernel that you guys talk about? What purpose it has? Its something that you can configure in the normal kernel?

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:30 am

The RT kernel, as used in linux audio,lets each process get the resources it needs
at the highest priority, without waiting to be scheduled for an appointment.
There are several methods being used in various kernels that are not purely
RT, but users are happy with the results. And the stock brown-bag kernel gets
better with each new version. So it's not like there is a really
slow doggy one to get stuck with out there anymore

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