KVR Audio

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:30 pm

bmanic wrote:EDIT2: NEVERMIND! I just found the linking % control for each band. AWESOME!!!!!!

Very nice new metering as well!

One suggestion: Could we have stereo linking as a multi-parameter?

Cheers!
bManic

Thanks

I'm afraid it cannot be automated/multiparametered anymore due to backward compatibility issues.

ryandfl · Post by **ryandfl** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:37 pm

Very cool to see developers embracing the feedback loop like this.

The only issue I had while demoing was with dialing in specific frequencies at a fine scale. I believe Vojtech said the controls can be slowed by holding shift, but here are a few other suggestions for that area -

Allow frequencies to be typed in
Make the Right mouse button function like the shift key, slowing the movement of parameters
A half or quarter note mode where all the frequencies snap to those..frequencies

That last suggestions is kind of the opposite of finer control, but hey.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:42 pm

Thanks!

With the fine-tuning - it's CTRL, and SHIFT + click on a slider is the text mode you want

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With the semitones, well, I'll be honest, the GUI is too crowded for such a feature, which I don't think would be really useful. Don't know...

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:26 pm

Is there any preset with the demo ?
(It seems to be quite a triocky beast to get to know, so starting point preset can help understanding how it works...)

And i may be dumb or blind, but i don't see how to specify the Hz value for the HP/LP ?
I see how to change the slope, not the freq !?

kylen · Post by **kylen** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:40 pm

sinkmusic wrote:Is there any preset with the demo ?
It seems to be quite a triocky beast to get to know, so starting point preset can help understanding how it works...

Try a spectrum match, that's what I am starting out with (if you use the auto EQ), it's kind of like a preset on steroids. You get to hear how Melda would use their tool to EQ your track or mix. And the great thing about the matcher is that it's not some kind of cumulative Spline EQ but real individual parametric filters that you can change and hear how they work. There were some presets on the demo I dl'd but I'm just now bringing down the new version so they may not have been compatible, etc.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:46 pm

sinkmusic wrote:Is there any preset with the demo ?
(It seems to be quite a triocky beast to get to know, so starting point preset can help understanding how it works...)

And i may be dumb or blind, but i don't see how to specify the Hz value for the HP/LP ?
I see how to change the slope, not the freq !?

Well, there are several presets and after you load a preset, check the multiparameters (bottom)

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Also HP & LP filters are the red vertical lines on the left and right of the band editor

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Check

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:48 pm

Hi

Try a spectrum match

SOrry, i should have mentionned that it was not for the AUto-Eq...

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:56 pm

Thanks for the quick reply.

MeldaProduction wrote:Well, there are several presets and after you load a preset, check the multiparameters (bottom) .

Maybe not provided with the "no installer DLL" posted above ?

MeldaProduction wrote:Also HP & LP filters are the red vertical lines on the left and right of the band editor .

Mmh, clever

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:58 pm

sinkmusic wrote:Thanks for the quick reply.
MeldaProduction wrote:Well, there are several presets and after you load a preset, check the multiparameters (bottom) .
Maybe not provided with the "no installer DLL" posted above ?

MeldaProduction wrote:Also HP & LP filters are the red vertical lines on the left and right of the band editor .
Mmh, clever

Aaaaha, you have to use the installer from the website. The links above are just to replace existing plugins. Sorry, I didn't make it clear.

musicbynumbers · Post by **musicbynumbers** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:47 pm

Firstly, want to say thanks for an amazing plugin, been looking for something this complete for ages!

And from this plugin I tried all the others and got so excited by finally finding a set of plugins as powerful as these that before I realised it the was rising and it was definitely time for bed!

So will definitely be buying quite a few of your plugins. I do have two questions related to the pitch detector in MautoDynamicEq if that's ok.

1: Is there a slew or response time parameter for the pitch detection somewhere? To slow down/average out the tracking as I have found even with careful use of threshold etc that it can be occasionally be a bit jumpy tracking wise as it tracks a vocal. It will sometimes lose the tracking for a split second and with a slew parameter it could be made to average/ignore these sudden changes.

2: Using the modulators/linking function, is there a way to offset one band of eq against another so when if you use pitch tracking to track say, band one to an instruments fundamental, you can then also offset band two to perfectly track the 2nd harmonic, band three for the 3rd harmonic and so forth. I realise you have transfer graphs to deal with conversion from linear to logarithmic but is there an easier way than trial an error?

Finally to explain the reason I desire these parameter (and I do mean "desire")

is because I have been using automation in past projects to manually track an instrument's (mostly a vocal's) fundamental frequency and then linking this automation to the other eq bands then offsetting them so I can then track the harmonics of the vocal and give me complete control over a vocals "timbre/tone"

I have found it very powerful in the past for having far better control of a vocal (especially now I can use dynamic eq for each band too.)

Normal eqs have the problem that you can boost around the fundamental of the vocal but as soon as the singer sings a much higher note you lose that boost in the fundamental (that gave it "body") and have to rely on compression to keep the vocal level constant.

Thanks in advance for any answers!

MBN.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:56 pm

Hi and thank you

Ok, so to the questions:
1) I'm afraid there is no "slow down" parameter, but it's a good point, added to to-do list.

2) Well, you can use multiple modulators, one for each band and there is the "shift" section in the pitch detector. Though this will take more of your CPU. Using a single modulator I'm afraid you can only mess with the range/transfer curve and there isn't really way to do that accurately.
Well, theoretically, we could just calculate the optimal graph, you can then save it as preset and you're done. Well at least you will always use the same harmonics. I'll think about how it could be done.

Anyway at the moment there is an important update to all plugins, I will proceed with another post shortly.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:03 pm

Ok, folks, an update has been released. It's strongly recommended to update the plugins.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 93#4695193

Note: There has been a bug in the first version, which had to be solved, but it might have changed dynamic response for mono tracks. If this occurs in your existing projects, set such bands "Level gain" to -3dB. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

musicbynumbers · Post by **musicbynumbers** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:26 pm

Thanks so much for taking this into consideration! I'm happy to test it if you do put it in and help out with finding the optimum transfer graph etc and make it into a permanent preset!

MeldaProduction wrote:Hi and thank you

Ok, so to the questions:
1) I'm afraid there is no "slow down" parameter, but it's a good point, added to to-do list.

2) Well, you can use multiple modulators, one for each band and there is the "shift" section in the pitch detector. Though this will take more of your CPU. Using a single modulator I'm afraid you can only mess with the range/transfer curve and there isn't really way to do that accurately.
Well, theoretically, we could just calculate the optimal graph, you can then save it as preset and you're done. Well at least you will always use the same harmonics. I'll think about how it could be done.

Anyway at the moment there is an important update to all plugins, I will proceed with another post shortly.

Umudo · Post by **Umudo** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:18 pm

Bought it yesterday. After using it for a while today, it seems i really needed a dynamic eq.

Besides the dynamic eq part, which i really loved, the included sonogram, analyzer, areas and auto-listen is helpful a lot. And the ridiculous introduction price. My first MeldaProduction purchase and i'm very happy

Thanks!

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:28 pm

Umudo wrote:Bought it yesterday. After using it for a while today, it seems i really needed a dynamic eq. Besides the dynamic eq part, which i really loved, the included sonogram, analyzer, areas and auto-listen is helpful a lot. And the ridiculous introduction price. My first MeldaProduction purchase and i'm very happy Thanks!

MDynamicEq and MAutoDynamicEq released with riddiculous introductory prices! - LAST CHANCE!