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summer2000 · Post by **summer2000** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:52 pm

LawrenceF wrote: My early mistake with this new system was comping takes 2-3-4 right on top of take 1 or something and kinda losing the contiguous full take 1, so now I always start with an empty comp track so all of my full take tracks stay unaffected in their respective lanes for re-use.

I as well did not like the comp system at first until I started using it the way you described above (starting with an empty comp track and building it from there). I'm cool with it now.

sfernald · Post by **sfernald** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:03 pm

I am using S12 and I have an instance of halion 4 on there. I have two instruments tracks in use.

If I drag a effect like a reverb on a track, it affects both tracks. How do I place an effect on just one of the tracks?

Next question. I drop in an audio file and then run it through melodyne and then adjust pitch and formant. Then I make a copy of the audio track but when I go to adjust the formant on that one track, it changes both tracks. How do I delink the two tracks?

onexeno · Post by **onexeno** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:04 am

Maybe I am missing something obvious, but I don't see how to use a plugin, such as a step sequencer or arpeggiator that takes midi for input and produces midi as its output, in S12 Pro. Does anyone know if this works, and if so how?

botkiller · Post by **botkiller** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:35 am

Peevy2000 wrote:Is it just me or does the description & videos of comping in v2 sound/look better than it really is. This is one area I was hoping presonus would pay a lot of attention to. While comping is better than it was, its still a bit awkward to use. I really don't like having to commit a take part before I can here it with the first take & using the ALT key to audition a part is a bit unintuitive because it just stops playing when you depress the ALT key. Also when using the alt key it turns of loop, I would've thought the whole point in auditioning a part is to hear what it sounds like in the context of the rest of the take.

I always thought Reapers comping method was a bit basic but at least when you split a take part you can here it within the body of the main take just by selecting that part or any of the other parts within that split just by selecting them. Reapers method of comping may be a bit simple but it works & IMHO is quicker & easier to use than S1. Before anyone comes in with "not another bloody Reaper Lover!!" I actually use Ableton Live a lot more which unfortunately has 0 comping. So from what I've seen & tried in other hosts so far Cubase, Logic & Reapers has S1 beat when it comes to comping.

I'm not totally dissing S1 because for the most part it is a big step up from v1 & the workflow is killer! Oh & I really love the melodyne integration. If I'm missing something with the comping in S1 please chime in & enlighten me.

I find nothing awkward about it. Loop record, audition comps, pick the pieces you want, send them to your primary track. I like it more than Protools' comping system.

Ableton has no comping because it would be counter intuitive to the design of Ableton.

Reading other posts after yours it looks like you got set up with comping further, so that's good. I think the fact that it is so simple can be a bit odd, we're used to these kinds of things being MUCH more complex (or thinking they should be).

botkiller · Post by **botkiller** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:37 am

onexeno wrote:Maybe I am missing something obvious, but I don't see how to use a plugin, such as a step sequencer or arpeggiator that takes midi for input and produces midi as its output, in S12 Pro. Does anyone know if this works, and if so how?

Are you talking about sending MIDI to an external device? Or just to MIDI tracks in your session?

botkiller · Post by **botkiller** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:39 am

sfernald wrote:I am using S12 and I have an instance of halion 4 on there. I have two instruments tracks in use.

If I drag a effect like a reverb on a track, it affects both tracks. How do I place an effect on just one of the tracks?

Next question. I drop in an audio file and then run it through melodyne and then adjust pitch and formant. Then I make a copy of the audio track but when I go to adjust the formant on that one track, it changes both tracks. How do I delink the two tracks?

I see no reason that the reverb should affect two tracks if you drag it onto one. Have you grouped these tracks in any way? Does this same thing happen if you make another session? This doesn't sound like normal operation.

paterpeter · Post by **paterpeter** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:49 am

If the two instrument tracks point to the same instrumen plugin, dragging an effect to either track adds it to the same instrument's audio channel in the mixer. You'll need to create a second instance of the instrument plugin and set each instrument track's output to a different instance. Then you can attach effects to each instance separately.

If the instrument is multi timbral and/or has multiple outputs you first need to map the outputs to distinct mixer channels. Each output can then have different effects applied.

sfernald · Post by **sfernald** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:54 am

paterpeter wrote: If the instrument is multi timbral and/or has multiple outputs you first need to map the outputs to distinct mixer channels. Each output can then have different effects applied.

Ok, this is what I need to do. Just got to figure out how.

paterpeter · Post by **paterpeter** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:37 am

sfernald wrote:
paterpeter wrote: If the instrument is multi timbral and/or has multiple outputs you first need to map the outputs to distinct mixer channels. Each output can then have different effects applied.
Ok, this is what I need to do. Just got to figure out how.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4689686

sfernald · Post by **sfernald** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:16 pm

Thanks guys.

Any thoughts on this one?

I drop in an audio file and then run it through melodyne and then adjust pitch and formant. Then I make a copy of the audio track but when I go to adjust the formant on that one track, it changes both tracks. How do I delink the two tracks?

summer2000 · Post by **summer2000** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:25 pm

sfernald wrote:Thanks guys.

Any thoughts on this one?

I drop in an audio file and then run it through melodyne and then adjust pitch and formant. Then I make a copy of the audio track but when I go to adjust the formant on that one track, it changes both tracks. How do I delink the two tracks?

You need to bounce the copied track first to delink them...then run it through Melodyne.

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:37 pm

onexeno wrote:Maybe I am missing something obvious, but I don't see how to use a plugin, such as a step sequencer or arpeggiator that takes midi for input and produces midi as its output, in S12 Pro. Does anyone know if this works, and if so how?

Not that I do a lot of that kinda thing but (afaik) if the step sequencer can be loaded as an instrument it will take input (on an instrument track) from any midi source that can output midi. For example: If I have FLStudio and EZDrummer loaded, I can use FLStudio as the input trigger for EZDrummer. It shows as a source input on the instrument track.

If you click the "input" field on the track header you'll see every available input source, midi ports and any loaded instrument that can output midi.

I think if an instrument actually outputs midi data you can just record the output to another midi track if that's what you mean.

summer2000 · Post by **summer2000** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:41 pm

onexeno wrote:Maybe I am missing something obvious, but I don't see how to use a plugin, such as a step sequencer or arpeggiator that takes midi for input and produces midi as its output, in S12 Pro. Does anyone know if this works, and if so how?

This video tutorial created by a Presonus forum member should clarify things for you.

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:48 pm

Slick video. I missed that one. How much is that plug he uses there? It looks handy.

I found it. 45 Euros? Not bad at all.

don1thedon · Post by **don1thedon** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:59 pm

LawrenceF wrote:Slick video. I missed that one. How much is that plug he uses there? It looks handy.

I found it. 45 Euros? Not bad at all.

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