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whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:17 pm

izonin wrote:The softies just don't work in a real musical situation.

Inigo Montoya wrote: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:18 pm

Urs wrote:
izonin wrote:All software emulations of anologue synths fail miserably.
I agree.

They fail *miserably* - or there are some minor differences if you really look closely?

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:19 pm

hakey wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote: he is the guy who insists physical modelling uses samples after all.

Yes, it's called hybrid modelling.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:20 pm

Grain Bastard wrote:[
You got a band website so we can hear this stuff that we are missing?

It'd be funny if it was this guy:

http://soundcloud.com/izonin/80s-bliss-demo-song

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:21 pm

hakey wrote:
Urs wrote:
izonin wrote:All software emulations of anologue synths fail miserably.
I agree.
They fail *miserably* - or there are some minor differences if you really look closely?

It depends on how serious you are about your music. I always look closely.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:22 pm

hakey wrote:
izonin wrote:All software emulations of anologue synths fail miserably.

Do they?

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:23 pm

So, you cannot be a REAL artist unless you fork over $250 for a size 00 paint brush.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:23 pm

izonin wrote:
hakey wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote: he is the guy who insists physical modelling uses samples after all.

Yes, it's called hybrid modelling.

No, 'physical modelling' is called 'physical modelling'.

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:24 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
Grain Bastard wrote:[
You got a band website so we can hear this stuff that we are missing?
It'd be funny if it was this guy:

http://soundcloud.com/izonin/80s-bliss-demo-song

The DX7 is an exception, it doesn't have filters. It doesn't try to emulate.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:24 pm

izonin wrote:
ariston wrote:
izonin wrote: The thing is, if you're playing in a band, and the guitarist has an amazing PRS and the sax player brings his Selmer, you'll want to be on their level, too. That's when you realize why softsynths can't compare sonically.
I'm sure you're speaking from an impressive backdrop of personal experience with these matters.
Yep, the sax player in my band actually plays a Selmer. The softies just don't work in a real musical situation. Except maybe for some ambient pads in the background.

Oh, I guess that proves it then. A Selmer, oh my.

Back to the real world: a lot of the synths mentioned in this thread are close enough for disco (and more practical into the bargain). And, kids, they DO work in a "real" musical situation. If you're a poor craftsman, don't blame your tools. If you're prone to penis envy, then by all means buy an authentic, out-of-tune analogue synth with no preset recall. I'm sure your fellow "Pros" will love you for that. And who knows, you might even get the blowjob after the show. That is, unless your drummer has a Pearl Masters drum set, in which case he's more pro than you and will take first dibs.

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:24 pm

izonin wrote:
hakey wrote:
Urs wrote:
izonin wrote:All software emulations of anologue synths fail miserably.
I agree.
They fail *miserably* - or there are some minor differences if you really look closely?
It depends on how serious you are about your music. I always look closely.

Ah, that was a question to Urs - it's a bit of a turn around from his view on the matter not so long ago.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:27 pm

izonin wrote:All software emulations of anologue synths fail miserably.

Actually there is only a handful of softsynths not emulating hardware afaic... + this discussion has a beard that would reach around this globe.

This is sort of a religious discussion anyway... while the analogue fraction is usually the religious fanatics while the digital fraction usually has to excuse themselves for using software.

There's one sentence often found on threads like this. Make music instead of discussing all day long.

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:28 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
izonin wrote:
hakey wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote: he is the guy who insists physical modelling uses samples after all.

Yes, it's called hybrid modelling.
No, 'physical modelling' is called 'physical modelling'.

But it had the same meaning in the context of that discussion.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:28 pm

izonin wrote:The DX7 is an exception, it doesn't have filters. It doesn't try to emulate.

kinda irrelevant to what I found funny, and an inconsistent argument, since only a tiny handful of softsynths try to emulate either.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:28 pm

But some people have to discuss all day long.

indistinguishable from hardware ??