Maybe they had some contractual arrangement with Ableton not to sell it separately at first.headquest wrote:I'm sure others already said this but... I find it odd that it's taken AAS this long to give Ableton/AAS Collision a VST skin and sell it as a separate product to people using other hosts.
New: AAS Chromaphone - Creative Percussion Synthesizer
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- KVRAF
- 37380 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- KVRAF
- 3329 posts since 18 May, 2003 from Sweden
I bought Chromaphone the minute I'd listened through the demos and now I'm disappointed. 
The sound is wonderful. The playability is great.
But…
NO MIDI LEARN!
At least none that I can find, and a search through the manual yields no mention of it.
I find it just incredible. The controls are glitch free and I can have all sorts of fun mousing with them. But apparently there's no way to connect them with sliders on my controller.
Parameter automation after the fact is no consolation. This instrument was made for hands on interaction!
Please, AAS, give us MIDI learn in a 1.0000…1 update! Before Xmas, please!
Oh yes - aftertouch too, please…
/Joachim
The sound is wonderful. The playability is great.
But…NO MIDI LEARN!
At least none that I can find, and a search through the manual yields no mention of it.
I find it just incredible. The controls are glitch free and I can have all sorts of fun mousing with them. But apparently there's no way to connect them with sliders on my controller.
Parameter automation after the fact is no consolation. This instrument was made for hands on interaction!
Please, AAS, give us MIDI learn in a 1.0000…1 update! Before Xmas, please!
Oh yes - aftertouch too, please…
/Joachim
If it were easy, anybody could do it!
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286 - KVRAF
- 16733 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
+1Spitfire31 wrote:
Please, AAS, give us MIDI learn in a 1.0000…1 update! Before Xmas, please!
Oh yes - aftertouch too, please…
/Joachim
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- KVRian
- 939 posts since 1 Sep, 2010 from Birmingham, UK
wheres my email! 
got the demo so looking forward to trying this.
got the demo so looking forward to trying this.
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My SoundCloud
My SoundCloud
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- KVRAF
- 3878 posts since 28 Jun, 2009 from Wherever I lay my hat
That's my guess. I just wish they were more upfront about it. To be fair, the effects section is nice, and the UI much easier to work with, but most people have effects up the wazoo, and the UI is "just" cosmetics.aMUSEd wrote:Maybe they had some contractual arrangement with Ableton not to sell it separately at first.headquest wrote:I'm sure others already said this but... I find it odd that it's taken AAS this long to give Ableton/AAS Collision a VST skin and sell it as a separate product to people using other hosts.
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- KVRAF
- 7489 posts since 6 Jul, 2004
re. MIDI Learn, the original Collision relies on Live's MIDI learn for hooking to a performance controller. I guess this is something they would need to add from scratch to a plug in version, and they'ce obviously yet to do so...
Can the plug in run as an effect? For me the coolest aspect of Collision is actually using the modelled resonators/etc as the separate Corpus effect device... Great for mangling drum loops and stuff...
Can the plug in run as an effect? For me the coolest aspect of Collision is actually using the modelled resonators/etc as the separate Corpus effect device... Great for mangling drum loops and stuff...
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- KVRAF
- 1548 posts since 12 Jan, 2010 from Copenhagen
I got my chromophone, it's going to be sweet. I think the sound just suits my more classically trained ears, wuff wuff.
I'v been a happy user of Tassman 4, String Studio and Ultra analog for the last 2 years. What I find is the AAS sounds light, and responsive and work well in complicated arrangements, Heavy cream plugs are impressive at first. But harder to work into a mix. So I'm really happy to see AAS moving forward with a new Plug.. I note that it is like the included plug in Live Suite. But I prefer my tools to not be married to a specific host. I'm not a Livanian as yet.
Some points I note right away:
The Chromophone interface encourages experimentation.
Midi Learn isn't there but the parametres are availble as modulation sources in Numerology Pro, This also means If I should want to make a patch using a midi transform module I can get access to aftertouch as well.
I can get to the parameters and route my sliders and knobs wheels pedals or whatever using the Numerology paramod modules..
The interface is clear and easy to understand, yet there is a huge amount of parameteres to tweek. Quite a feat.
Sound quality is what I like about physical modelling responive nuanced, sophisticated..
The reverb is sweet, useful and sound good.
If all goes well I'll likely hop on the 89$ deal.
I'm sure it'll get used, it would also be good as a teaching tool for explaining model based synthesis.
The AAS plugs I already have are perhaps already more than enough for what I do. But the fact that this is 64 bit on the MAC means I'll be able to get that AAS sound into my 64 bit working enviroment, this is at present one of the critieria for following the multicore music computer develpment.
I would have bought other stuff, but Chromophone got in the way....
Wade
I'v been a happy user of Tassman 4, String Studio and Ultra analog for the last 2 years. What I find is the AAS sounds light, and responsive and work well in complicated arrangements, Heavy cream plugs are impressive at first. But harder to work into a mix. So I'm really happy to see AAS moving forward with a new Plug.. I note that it is like the included plug in Live Suite. But I prefer my tools to not be married to a specific host. I'm not a Livanian as yet.
Some points I note right away:
The Chromophone interface encourages experimentation.
Midi Learn isn't there but the parametres are availble as modulation sources in Numerology Pro, This also means If I should want to make a patch using a midi transform module I can get access to aftertouch as well.
I can get to the parameters and route my sliders and knobs wheels pedals or whatever using the Numerology paramod modules..
The interface is clear and easy to understand, yet there is a huge amount of parameteres to tweek. Quite a feat.
Sound quality is what I like about physical modelling responive nuanced, sophisticated..
The reverb is sweet, useful and sound good.
If all goes well I'll likely hop on the 89$ deal.
I'm sure it'll get used, it would also be good as a teaching tool for explaining model based synthesis.
The AAS plugs I already have are perhaps already more than enough for what I do. But the fact that this is 64 bit on the MAC means I'll be able to get that AAS sound into my 64 bit working enviroment, this is at present one of the critieria for following the multicore music computer develpment.
I would have bought other stuff, but Chromophone got in the way....
Wade
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waves break, but somehow it all makes sense.
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
Nice sounding and original synth, with features of its own.
I might get this one, cool instruments in it
I might get this one, cool instruments in it
http://www.lelotusbleu.fr Synth Presets
77 Exclusive Soundbanks for 23 synths, 8 Sound Designers, Hours of audio Demos. The Sound you miss might be there
77 Exclusive Soundbanks for 23 synths, 8 Sound Designers, Hours of audio Demos. The Sound you miss might be there
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- 16733 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
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- 16733 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
It's Chromaphone - until now we have Chromasome - Chromophone and Chromaphone - keep em comingTwoToneshuzz wrote:I got my chromophone,
The Chromophone interface encourages experimentation.
I would have bought other stuff, but Chromophone got in the way....
Wade
"Fundamentally percussive, and ridiculously versatile..."
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- KVRAF
- 8099 posts since 12 Dec, 2003 from Canada
I caught myself referring to it as Chromasphere once.Sampleconstruct wrote:It's Chromaphone - until now we have Chromasome - Chromophone and Chromaphone - keep em coming
Clearly there's something slightly confusing and non-sticky about the name.
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- 16733 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
LOL - Chromashpere is great too...polyslax wrote:I caught myself referring to it as Chromasphere once.Sampleconstruct wrote:It's Chromaphone - until now we have Chromasome - Chromophone and Chromaphone - keep em coming
Clearly there's something slightly confusing and non-sticky about the name.
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- KVRAF
- 1924 posts since 15 Oct, 2008 from Germany
Chronosphere
Fundamentally concussive, and ridiculously volatile...
(any C&C players here?
)
Comaprone
Fundamentally depressive, and ridiculously vegetal...
Fundamentally concussive, and ridiculously volatile...
(any C&C players here?
)Comaprone
Fundamentally depressive, and ridiculously vegetal...
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- KVRist
- 369 posts since 13 Jun, 2006 from Cornwall, UK
The key (pun intended) to microtuning is the incredibly versatile KEY function, present in both Resonators - you can leave these at their default 1:1 setting for standard tuning, but pulling them gradually down will result in a host of microtuning settings, all the way down to 0:1 (where every note has the same pitch).Borealis wrote:I could live without pitch bend, but aftertouch and microtuning certainly would be most useful. They do something with tunings though, have you noticed the non-linear tuning in the Stockhausen Mallet program (#31 in the Soundscape bank, I can't figure out how they programmed that
On the other hand, increasing the KEY value beyond 1:1 will result in bigger jumps between notes, all the way to 2:1 (which is how I created my Whole Tone Dulcimer preset, which jumps a whole tone between each semitone you play)
Cool stuff
Martin
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- KVRAF
- 1548 posts since 12 Jan, 2010 from Copenhagen
Chromosphere
Coffee with Chromo
Chromamama
Chromazhome
Chromaaphonnee
Chromamona
Chromania-iphonia-bananea--xylonia-bongalaijee-congolafoo-stratoeia-assphereica
Chromaphone Chromaphone Chromaphone Chromaphone Chromaphone
It's got a hold on me.
Coffee with Chromo
Chromamama
Chromazhome
Chromaaphonnee
Chromamona
Chromania-iphonia-bananea--xylonia-bongalaijee-congolafoo-stratoeia-assphereica
Chromaphone Chromaphone Chromaphone Chromaphone Chromaphone
It's got a hold on me.
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waves break, but somehow it all makes sense.