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synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:24 pm

Would you care to explain how to batch re-save Diamond for example? I'm fairly certain that it's just a command, but I can't find the phrase batch re-save in the manual.

Care to give step-by step instructions? I only have 8GB RAM so this could help immensely.

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:49 pm

synchronizer wrote:Care to give step-by step instructions? I only have 8GB RAM so this could help immensely.

8gb ram...you lucky dog

just search Collect samples/Batch compress in the Kontakt manual. it's on pg.41 in the K5 manual

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:52 pm

Don't worry, I have a macbook pro, so the CPU isn't that great (i7-but bad cache-5400 rpm drive) and I have no speakers. You all are lucky. So... would I just select the entire Diamond folder?

Anyway, I found how to compress everything. Just to make sure I'm doing it right---

I select the Diamond Folder I have (with all the sub folders with instruments and samples) and set the destination path to the same spot the Diamond Folder is in?

How long will this take?

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:46 pm

synchronizer wrote:I select the Diamond Folder I have (with all the sub folders with instruments and samples) and set the destination path to the same spot the Diamond Folder is in?

How long will this take?

Errr...no. Better select any other folder. When everything is done, replace the old folder with the new one.

How long this will take? Taking into account that you'll probably need to do a batch resave afterwards too, wait until there is some nice movie or football game on TV.

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:50 pm

Ah I see...probably would be best to do overnight. Why would I need to batch re-save if e duplicate folder would be created with all of the same positions? I need to be careful...

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:50 pm

goyya76 wrote:hi all,

i have the following trouble with the Bass Clarinet and Contrabasson solo instruments (they're the only non-TVEC3 woodwinds in Diamond, if i did not miss anything): as soon as i move down the pitch wheel (to prepare a slide), some notes are triggered at max velocity (i'm not playing any key) - anyone with the same problem?

Cheers,

Goyya

Go to http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/update.html and you can download the fixes for the old TVEC 1 woodwind instruments.

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:56 pm

Sorry Kirk, but where exactly must I put that folder? There's no Woodwind Instruments folder in the original Diamond selection.

EDIT: Well as it says on the download page, I'm supposed to just put the updates folder into my Diamond directory with no further alterations--- which instruments are they updating though? I'm not certain which ones to avoid now.

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:58 pm

synchronizer wrote:Ah I see...probably would be best to do overnight. Why would I need to batch re-save if e duplicate folder would be created with all of the same positions? I need to be careful...

Because Kontakt will look for .wav files instead of .ncw, if they haven't changed this in Kontakt 5.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:58 pm

synchronizer wrote:Sorry Kirk, but where exactly must I put that folder? There's no Woodwind Instruments folder in the original Diamond selection.

The resulting folder is shown here along with all of the other Diamond folders:

__Solo_Strings_1
__Solo_Strings_2
_Documentation
_TVEC_1_updates (<------PUT IT RIGHT HERE!)
_TVEC_3.1_Instruments
00_Concert_Str_Combinations
00_Concert_Str_Combinations_Bonus
01_Concert_Violins
02_Concert_Violas
03_Concert_Cellos
04_Concert_Basses
05_Concert_Str_Comb_Mute
06_Concert_ViolinsMute
07_Concert_Violas_Mute
08_Concert_Cellos_Mute
09_Concert_Basses_Mute
10_Studio_Str_Comb
11_Studio_Violins
12_Studio_Violas
13_Studio_Cellos
14_Studio_Basses
15_Studio_Str_Comb_Mute
16_Studio_Violins_Mute
17_Studio_Violas_Mute
18_Studio_Cellos_Mute
19_Studio_Basses_Mute
20_Symphonic_Str_Comb
21_Symphonic_Violins
22_Symphonic_Violas
23_Symphonic_Cellos
24_Symphonic_Basses
25_Symphonic_Str_Comb_Mute
26_Symphonic_Violins_Mute
27_Symphonic_Violas_Mute
28_Symphonic_Cellos_Mute
29_Symphonic_Basses_Mute
30_Chamber_Str_Comb
31_Chamber_Violins
32_Chamber_Violas
33_Chamber_Cellos
34_Chamber_Basses
35_Chamber_Str_Comb_Mute
36_Chamber_Violins_Mute
37_Chamber_Violas_Mute
38_Chamber_Cellos_Mute
39_Chamber_Basses_Mute
45_Concert_French_Horns
46_Concert_French_Horns_Mute
47_Concert_Trumpets
48_Concert_Trumpets_Mute
49_Concert_Trombones
50_Concert_Trombones_Mute
51_Concert_Brass_Chorale
52_Concert_Bonus_Brass
54_Studio_French_Horns
55_Studio_French_Horn_Mute
56_Studio_Trumpets
57_Studio_Trumpets_Mute
58_Studio_Trombones
59_Studio_Trombones_Mute
60_Studio_Brass_Comb
61_Symphonic_French_Horns
62_Symphonic_French_Horns_Mutes
63_Symphonic_Trombones
64_Symphonic_Trombones_Mute
65_Symphonic_Trumpets
66_Symphonic_Trumpets_Mute
67_Symphonic_Bass_Trombones
68_Symph_Tubas
68b_Symph_Brass_Comb
69_Solo_French_Horn_a
70_Solo_French_Horn_a_Mute
71_Solo_Trumpet_a
72_Solo_Trumpet_a_Mute
73_Solo_Trombone_a
74_Solo_Trombone_a_Mute
75_Solo_Tuba
76_Solo_French_Horn_b
77_Solo_Trumpet_b
78_Solo_Trombone_b
79_Woodwind_Combination
80_Piccolos
81_Flutes
82_Alto_Flutes
83_Oboes
84_English_Horns
85_Clarinets
86_Bass_Clarinets
87_Bassoons
88_Contra_Bassoons
89_Harp
90_Tympani
91_Piano
92_Hits_and_Cymbals
93_Xylophone
94_Glockenspiel
95_Harpsichord
96_Tubular_Bells
97_Celesta

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:00 pm

Okay, thanks for the clarification--- I've noticed something though: I play a note and it sustains even after letting go. That's odd.

EDIT: It was a Kontakt 5 bug, fixed on startup. Weird- I wonder how it happened.

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:01 pm

synchronizer wrote:Okay, thanks for the clarification--- I've noticed something though: I play a note and it sustains even after letting go. That's odd.

As always, please specify the exact name of the instrument at issue.

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:04 pm

See above- I think I accidentally found some sort of Kontakt 5 (tiny) issue. I somehow moved the pitch wheel while holding down a note with the mouse (both at once). strange. Nothing to see here.

Intralive pitch wheel doesn't seem to do anything though. eh I'll learn---.

lemeur · Post by **lemeur** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:08 pm

I've got a small question about Kirk's product line as it is not always clear what products are evolution or extensions of others.

1) Pop-Rock-Strings and Concert Strings II
I first thought, at reading the description on the website, that PRS was a stripped down version of CSII. This seems to be partly true as I've read somewhere that some specific effects are only available in PRS.
Am I right ?

2) "Diamond" includes "Concert Strings I" and "Concert Brass I"

Are these products obsoleted by CSII and CBII or are they intended to work together ?
If they do complement each others, would it make sense for someone havong bought CSII and CBII to buy Diamond as well ?

Thanks in advance for your replies,

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:18 pm

All right then. It's clear to me that I'll have to either compress the samples or get an external hard drive. Can someone explain how the NCW compression works? I only have a 5400 rpm internal drive, so I fear that if I use NCW, I will have some problems as a result of the slower speed. Is this true? It's not really feasible for me to replace my macbook pro's internal drive.

Thanks.

eDrummist · Post by **eDrummist** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:50 pm

lemeur wrote:I've got a small question about Kirk's product line as it is not always clear what products are evolution or extensions of others.

1) Pop-Rock-Strings and Concert Strings II
I first thought, at reading the description on the website, that PRS was a stripped down version of CSII. This seems to be partly true as I've read somewhere that some specific effects are only available in PRS.
Am I right ?

2) "Diamond" includes "Concert Strings I" and "Concert Brass I"

Are these products obsoleted by CSII and CBII or are they intended to work together ?
If they do complement each others, would it make sense for someone havong bought CSII and CBII to buy Diamond as well ?

Thanks in advance for your replies,

1. Pop/Rock Strings is made from the samples used from Concert Strings II, so you can certainly think of it as a stripped down version of Concert Strings II. Pop/Rock Strings stretches some samples, whereas Concert Strings II does not. The only thing that Pop/Rock Strings has that CSII doesn't have is a short disco note effect (remember, PRS is aimed specifically at Pop/Rock music). This page compares the two libraries: http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/compare_cs2_prs.html

2. While Concert Strings II and Concert Brass II are more sophisticated than Concert Strings I and Concert Brass I, I would not say that Concert Strings I and Concert Brass I are "obsoleted" by CSII and CBII. Yes, a lot of people buy Diamond and CSII and CBII specifically because no single library has it all and the libraries sound different, which provides with a greater sonic pallet to choose from.

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