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DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:17 pm

synchronizer wrote:All right then. It's clear to me that I'll have to either compress the samples or get an external hard drive. Can someone explain how the NCW compression works? I only have a 5400 rpm internal drive, so I fear that if I use NCW, I will have some problems as a result of the slower speed. Is this true? It's not really feasible for me to replace my macbook pro's internal drive.

Thanks.

What do you want to know? NCW files are smaller, "lossless" (no reduction in audio quality), load faster and use less RAM.

But, if I were you, my very next purchase would be a fast external drive.

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:11 pm

How does Kontakt use the NCW files? Does it have to decompress them at all? If this is so, then naturally a slower drive will produce some detrimental effects.
If the compressed files don't undergo any processing, then they are perfectly fine for me to use.

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:13 pm

Kontakt 5 manual - page 39 (and 80).

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:18 pm

I was merely trying to confirm...

Yes I know:

This will not only improve access performance
when streaming the Instrument from disk, but will also reduce its memory footprint, as
KONTAKT will decompress the Samples on-the-fly from memory with very little CPU overhead.
The downside of using compressed Samples, however, is that you cannot use external
wave editors to access them directly anymore.

It's up for interpretation though-- what if a 5400 rpm drive will handle the compressed files worse than the uncompressed ones? Thanks for the manual pages but it's as if you think I'm lazy whenever I ask for a specific confirmation.

goyya76 · Post by **goyya76** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:28 pm

KirkHunter wrote: Go to http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/update.html and you can download the fixes for the old TVEC 1 woodwind instruments.

superfast - thanks!

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:41 pm

crap!

K5 crashed in the process of compressing concert brass 2 (compressing solo strings 2 went without a hitch). tried it again and left it running. came back home several hours later and it had crashed again

anyone try compressing CB2 yet? something to do with inadequate ram maybe?

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:43 pm

kcisANDderit wrote:crap!

K5 crashed in the process of compressing concert brass 2 (compressing solo strings 2 went without a hitch). tried it again and left it running. come back home several hours later and it had crashed again

anyone try compressing CB2 yet? something to do with inadequate ram maybe?

GUYS, GUYS, (AND GALS)!!! CB2 is already compressed. (.ncw)!!

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:47 pm

KirkHunter wrote:
kcisANDderit wrote:crap!

K5 crashed in the process of compressing concert brass 2 (compressing solo strings 2 went without a hitch). tried it again and left it running. come back home several hours later and it had crashed again

anyone try compressing CB2 yet? something to do with inadequate ram maybe?
GUYS, GUYS, (AND GALS)!!! CB2 is already compressed. (.ncw)!!

i hadn't looked at the files. anyway, they load very slowly so i assumed they were not compressed. slow

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:49 pm

KirkHunter wrote:
kcisANDderit wrote:crap!

K5 crashed in the process of compressing concert brass 2 (compressing solo strings 2 went without a hitch). tried it again and left it running. come back home several hours later and it had crashed again

anyone try compressing CB2 yet? something to do with inadequate ram maybe?
GUYS, GUYS, (AND GALS)!!! CB2 is already compressed. (.ncw)!!

-but Diamond and Concert Strings II are NOT compressed?

KirkHunter · Post by **KirkHunter** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:56 pm

synchronizer wrote:
KirkHunter wrote:
kcisANDderit wrote:crap!

K5 crashed in the process of compressing concert brass 2 (compressing solo strings 2 went without a hitch). tried it again and left it running. come back home several hours later and it had crashed again

anyone try compressing CB2 yet? something to do with inadequate ram maybe?
GUYS, GUYS, (AND GALS)!!! CB2 is already compressed. (.ncw)!!
-but Diamond and Concert Strings II are NOT compressed?

Right. Just Concert Brass 2 is compressed.

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:58 pm

Has anyone compressed Diamond yet? How much space do you save?

lingyai · Post by **lingyai** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:14 am

DarkStar wrote:
synchronizer wrote:All right then. It's clear to me that I'll have to either compress the samples or get an external hard drive. Can someone explain how the NCW compression works? I only have a 5400 rpm internal drive, so I fear that if I use NCW, I will have some problems as a result of the slower speed. Is this true? It's not really feasible for me to replace my macbook pro's internal drive.

Thanks.
What do you want to know? NCW files are smaller, "lossless" (no reduction in audio quality), load faster and use less RAM.

But, if I were you, my very next purchase would be a fast external drive.

NI specifically recommend putting Ontakt samples on an external HD.

Anything slower than 7200 rpm is a bad idea, I am told.

lingyai · Post by **lingyai** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:15 am

KirkHunter wrote:
kcisANDderit wrote:crap!

K5 crashed in the process of compressing concert brass 2 (compressing solo strings 2 went without a hitch). tried it again and left it running. come back home several hours later and it had crashed again

anyone try compressing CB2 yet? something to do with inadequate ram maybe?
GUYS, GUYS, (AND GALS)!!! CB2 is already compressed. (.ncw)!!

I spent half a day converting Diamond to Microsoft Excel but can't make heads or tails of anything at all now

synchronizer · Post by **synchronizer** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:16 am

Not everyone can afford a good external hard drive.

This was recommended to me, but it's somewhat expensive and I don't know if it's perfect...the really good ones cost $500 don't they? (assumption-prove me wrong please)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FreeAgent ... 490&sr=1-2

"Ultra portable" yeah I'd need something 100% stationary.

kcisANDderit · Post by **kcisANDderit** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:27 am

KirkHunter wrote:GUYS, GUYS, (AND GALS)!!! CB2 is already compressed. (.ncw)!!

dang! there it is right under my nose

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