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JJBiener · Post by **JJBiener** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:03 am

I was in my local pawn shop today and I saw a MOTU MIDI Timepiece II circa 1994 for $65. Obviously, it would have little use any more as a MIDI interface, but it would still be useful as a MIDI patchbay. Is $65 a good price or should I offer the guy less? Say $50? No cables. No manual.

I would be curious if anyone has an opinion.

Thanks,

JJ

JJBiener · Post by **JJBiener** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:27 pm

Anyone have an opinion on this?

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:00 am

I just checked eBay. Why didn't you? Apparently they go for $50 to $150, but I've seen much lower prices (like "given") in forum posts from 2006.

$65 sounds like he'll accept a bid of $50. For him a good chance to sell it and get rid of it. I'd imagine finding a new owner for something like this might be a bit of a challenge. If $50 is turned down you can always offer $65 again. Would a Midi patchbay be worth that for you??

No manual can be a problem though, very hard to find online...

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:22 am

The manual is still available (IIRC, even on MOTU's page). I happen to have one Timepiece myself (thanks to a gift from a fellow musician). But so far, I didn't implement it into my equipment yet.

I wish there would still be more modules like these available for an affordable price. Then again, the future seems to be USB-this'n-that for everything.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:02 am

Compyfox wrote:The manual is still available (IIRC, even on MOTU's page).

Link please?
On http://www.motu.com/techsupport/manuals I see a manual for it's successor, the MIDI Timepiece AV and something called the "Digital Timepiece". Nothing for the MIDI Timepiece II alas...

JJBiener · Post by **JJBiener** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:55 pm

I just checked eBay. Why didn't you?

Of course I checked on eBay as soon as I got home. That told me what people were paying. It didn't tell me what it was worth.

No manual can be a problem though, very hard to find online...

I found bits and pieces of the manual online. Enough that I could probably figure out how to use it.

I guess my question is whether a 17-year-old MIDI patchbay is worth $65 (or $50). I guess only I can decide that.

Thanks for the input.

1-2-Many · Post by **1-2-Many** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:17 pm

JJBiener wrote:
I just checked eBay. Why didn't you?
Of course I checked on eBay as soon as I got home. That told me what people were paying. It didn't tell me what it was worth.

Of course it did - Economics 101: The worth of anything is determined by (valued at) what the general populace are willing to pay (exchange) for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_(economics)

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:21 pm

BertKoor wrote:
Compyfox wrote:The manual is still available (IIRC, even on MOTU's page).
Link please?
On http://www.motu.com/techsupport/manuals I see a manual for it's successor, the MIDI Timepiece AV and something called the "Digital Timepiece". Nothing for the MIDI Timepiece II alas...

I really don't know where I grabbed the manual for my unit. Maybe it was even on some backup remote place or something like that. Maybe I still have it on my HDD (sure hope so, haven't used that thing yet), but I can't check atm.

Lau999 · Post by **Lau999** » Tue May 21, 2013 3:14 am

Hi,

I just picked this motu time piece 2 and I'm interested to buy or recycle a cheap computer to configure it entirely with the soft.

But what is the simpliest and more efficent way to use it ?

Old Mac with OS 9.0 ? Or before OS 9.0 ?
Pc with W98 and ISA port ? What kind of card should we use to connect it ?
Cables ? ?

I don't have the manuel, I will be very happy if someone can help me, send me manuals, drivers and so on..

Thanks

Best regards

Lau

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue May 21, 2013 4:58 am

Lau999 wrote:Hi,

I just picked this motu time piece 2 and I'm interested to buy or recycle a cheap computer to configure it entirely with the soft.

But what is the simpliest and more efficent way to use it ?

Old Mac with OS 9.0 ? Or before OS 9.0 ?
Pc with W98 and ISA port ? What kind of card should we use to connect it ?
Cables ? ?

I don't have the manuel, I will be very happy if someone can help me, send me manuals, drivers and so on..

Thanks

Best regards

Lau

This is probably one of those rare instances when I have the detailed info that you are seeking. I have a MTP II with a broken serial port. It's broken because I was plugged into my ISA card and the wiring in my apartment was bad and the MTP was not plugged into the same outlet as the computer.

Ok, like you care.

But, don't waste your time trying to find the ISA card, they are hard to find and just add complication. The best way to configure these without anything else is an old mac running OS9 because the serial port is just a straight connection to the mac serial bus.

BTW: $50, or $75 is a fine price for one if you need it. I've seen them as low as $20, but that's rare. I don't think that many sell at $100.

Hope this helps,
gs.

Lau999 · Post by **Lau999** » Tue May 21, 2013 8:18 am

Hi !
A great thank you for the answer ! This is really helpful, yes , it makes me avoid wasting time and patience in an old PC for nothing !!!

I saw an add (not phoned yet) for a laptop mac on os 9.0 nnot so far from my location; I m gonna to phone the guy and ask him if it has serial because it's laptop ... sells it for 65 $..

Really thanks. Still looking for the whole manual and others precious informations, if someone see and have :=)

Merci !

Lau999 · Post by **Lau999** » Tue May 21, 2013 8:20 am

this one has been sold ... next lool

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue May 21, 2013 8:23 am

Lau999 wrote:Hi !
A great thank you for the answer ! This is really helpful, yes , it makes me avoid wasting time and patience in an old PC for nothing !!!

I saw an add (not phoned yet) for a laptop mac on os 9.0 nnot so far from my location; I m gonna to phone the guy and ask him if it has serial because it's laptop ... sells it for 65 $..

Really thanks. Still looking for the whole manual and others precious informations, if someone see and have :=)

Merci !

Make sure that it has an apple ADB port. It will be obvious if it does as it looks exactly like the port on the back of the MTP. You need a straight ADB cable to connect them together. They are fairly easy to find, although, I haven't looked for one recently (as in the last 10 years or so, heh!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Desktop_Bus

Lau999 · Post by **Lau999** » Wed May 22, 2013 2:28 am

Thank you so much ghettosynth for these treasures !.

Somebody will give me an old pc, i will keep it if I found nothing else but now I'm ready to buy my first Mac loool ...

Sorry for your MTP II death...
I just receive today multiple sure APC surge protectors plugs to reduce or avoid the fridge on/off effect on the records

and the death of the hardware.. but it's not a furman pl 8 ...

Cheers !

... when I will have news (good I hope) I will post it .

See ya !

What would a MOTU MIDI Timepiece II be worth?