KVR Audio

Thunderbox · Post by **Thunderbox** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:39 am

I started playing with this plugin at around 10:00 last night and before I knew it the clock had struck 3:00am. I love this thing. I recorded this Springsteen cover using liberal amounts of UberMod ( I don't think The Boss has to worry about me stealing his thunder). I could just sit and mess with this thing for ages, very inspirational.

http://snd.sc/szyk14

rockreid · Post by **rockreid** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:40 pm

would be cool to try and emulate the Lennon voice double effect with this great plug.

michu · Post by **michu** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:31 pm

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<ValhallaUberMod pluginVersion="1.0.0" presetName="DistantFrontline" Mix="1" Depth="1" StereoWidth="0.746500015" Delay="0" Feedback="0.992999971" Spread="0" Slope="0.5" Skew="0.5" Random="0" TapGain="0.5" Diffusion="0.617999971" DiffSize="1" DiffModRate="0.537537515" DiffModDepth="0.551999986" LowCut="0" HighCut="0.180402011" SpatialXover="0.603015065" DetuneRate="0" DetuneDepth="1" VibratoRate="0.314285725" VibratoDepth="0" OverMod="1" DriveInGain="0.25" DriveOutGain="0.75" DriveNoiseGain="0.768888891" FeedbackRotate="1" SmoothingTime="0.0307307299" ColorMode="1" DelaySync="0" type="0.375" DiffEnable="1" Drive="1" DrivePrePost="1" Speed="1"/>

this makes use of excellent diffuser and the overmod trick. allows making dark ambient with cutlery and cardboard boxes

i'm not able to select DualEnsable and 16TapPhase modes from dropdown menu. Ubermod either selects the mode above them right out, or reverts to it when any control is touched. (WinXP32 SP2, Reaper4, Ubermod demo)
also, i'd like to +1 to adding a control/divider to synced modes. lack of such feature puts some damper on my love outburst for the plugin

metalifuxx · Post by **metalifuxx** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:32 pm

Has anyone whipped up some Dimension D type sounds/presets, including the different button combinations?

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:39 pm

valhallasound wrote:..to create a variety of swishing, whooshing boing sounds.

http://www.xoxos.net/vst/DEMOswish2.zip
http://www.xoxos.net/vst/whoosh.zip
http://www.xoxos.net/vst/boing2.zip

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:08 pm

xoxos wrote:
valhallasound wrote:..to create a variety of swishing, whooshing boing sounds.

http://www.xoxos.net/vst/DEMOswish2.zip
http://www.xoxos.net/vst/whoosh.zip
http://www.xoxos.net/vst/boing2.zip

Aw crap! TRADEMARK INFRINGEMENT!

I'll change future statements to BIFF! BANG! POW! to avoid legal action.

Sean Costello

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:42 pm

michu wrote: i'm not able to select DualEnsable and 16TapPhase modes from dropdown menu. Ubermod either selects the mode above them right out, or reverts to it when any control is touched. (WinXP32 SP2, Reaper4, Ubermod demo)

I can confirm this bug. I also found the bug in Live running in WinXP32, SP2. I'll see what is going on. Not sure why this would only show up in XP, but I'm used to these sort of weird XP-localized bugs.

also, i'd like to +1 to adding a control/divider to synced modes. lack of such feature puts some damper on my love outburst for the plugin

Ewww.

Sean Costello

michu · Post by **michu** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:47 pm

valhallasound wrote:Ewww.

this is good time to make a water decision. the tribe will benefit in the long run

edit: i see 1/phi for diffusion behaves like in shimmer

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:04 pm

valhallasound wrote: I'll change future statements to BIFF! BANG! POW! to avoid legal action.

maybe we ought to just chill..

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:52 pm

michu wrote: edit: i see 1/phi for diffusion behaves like in shimmer

Not quite the same math going on under the hood.

The Diffusion parameter in ValhallaShimmer maps directly to the allpass delay coefficients, so a Diffusion setting of 0.618 will result in allpass coefficients of 0.618.

The 0%-100% range in ValhallaÜberMod is mapped to a 0.0-0.75 allpass coefficient range, as I use a much different spread of allpass delay lengths in ÜberMod than in ValhallaShimmer, and allpass coefficients higher than 0.75 sounded really bad in ÜberMod. The math needed to get an internal allpass coefficient of 1/phi is left as an exercise to the reader. Although a setting of 82.4% is probably a good starting point.

ValhallaRoom doesn't use allpass delays for its diffusion section, so the above discussion doesn't apply to that plugin.

Sean Costello

michu · Post by **michu** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:27 pm

valhallasound wrote:Although a setting of 82.4% is probably a good starting point.

Informative and helpful. cheers

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:39 pm

michu wrote:
valhallasound wrote:Although a setting of 82.4% is probably a good starting point.
Informative and helpful. cheers

I thin that the math is: multiply the desired allpass coefficient by 1.333.

For example, the Bloom reverbs on the Alesis Midiverb II probably used an allpass coefficient of 0.5, due to the architecture of that system (where multipliers were avoided). This translates to a Diffusion value in ÜberMod of 66.7%.

Here's a 1/phi reverb, with a slow attack and long decay:

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<ValhallaUberMod pluginVersion="1.0.0" presetName="BigBloomReverb" Mix="0.458000004" Depth="0.577000022" StereoWidth="0.5" Delay="0.0251000002" Feedback="0.5" Spread="0" Slope="0.5" Skew="0.5" Random="0" TapGain="0.5" Diffusion="0.824000001" DiffSize="1" DiffModRate="0.0490490496" DiffModDepth="0.5" LowCut="0" HighCut="0.34020099" SpatialXover="0.145728648" DetuneRate="0.0490490496" DetuneDepth="0.5" VibratoRate="0.298245579" VibratoDepth="0" OverMod="0" DriveInGain="0.375" DriveOutGain="0.616666675" DriveNoiseGain="0.333333343" FeedbackRotate="1" SmoothingTime="0.0990990996" ColorMode="0" DelaySync="0" type="0" DiffEnable="1" Drive="0" DrivePrePost="0" Speed="1"/>

Mind you, with the multitap architecture of ÜberMod, you can get MUCH longer attacks for reverbs:

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<ValhallaUberMod pluginVersion="1.0.0" presetName="LongAttackReverb" Mix="0.458000004" Depth="0.189999998" StereoWidth="0.486000001" Delay="1" Feedback="0.620000005" Spread="1" Slope="0" Skew="0.0199999996" Random="0.592000008" TapGain="0.5" Diffusion="1" DiffSize="0.806122422" DiffModRate="0.0490490496" DiffModDepth="0.5" LowCut="0" HighCut="0.395979911" SpatialXover="0.145728648" DetuneRate="0.145145148" DetuneDepth="0.56400001" VibratoRate="0.298245579" VibratoDepth="0" OverMod="0" DriveInGain="0.375" DriveOutGain="0.75" DriveNoiseGain="0.333333343" FeedbackRotate="0.5" SmoothingTime="0.0990990996" ColorMode="0" DelaySync="0.0588235296" type="0.375" DiffEnable="1" Drive="0" DrivePrePost="1" Speed="1"/>

Sean Costello

michu · Post by **michu** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:01 am

valhallasound wrote:
michu wrote:
valhallasound wrote:Although a setting of 82.4% is probably a good starting point.
Informative and helpful. cheers
I thin that the math is: multiply the desired allpass coefficient by 1.333.

For example, the Bloom reverbs on the Alesis Midiverb II probably used an allpass coefficient of 0.5, due to the architecture of that system (where multipliers were avoided). This translates to a Diffusion value in ÜberMod of 66.7%.

Here's a 1/phi reverb, with a slow attack and long decay:

<snip>

Sean Costello

one doesn't even have to ask to receive

i'm your humble servant, truly. between flexible saturation in the feedback path, allowing for infinite soundscapes, an excellent allpass diffusor, and uberflexible mod delays (the OverMod trick itself is worth a separate plugin) this is just a mind-boggling tool. if only it had shut up, shut up, shut up!

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:04 am

Experiment with Jaybass and ÜberMod...

Integratron · Post by **Integratron** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:08 pm

rockreid wrote:would be cool to try and emulate the Lennon voice double effect with this great plug.